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Chat
| 00:23 | Orangelash | glhf |
| 00:25 | Shipy00 | u2 |
| 07:43 | Orangelash | what did i do wrong |
| 07:48 | Orangelash | i dont even get it |
| 07:55 | Shipy00 | you didnt get many gens |
| 08:06 | Shipy00 | and those that you did, you need to protect them better |
| 08:14 | Orangelash | how though |
| 08:24 | Orangelash | heretics kill the scouts |
| 08:32 | Shipy00 | scouts destroy tics |
| 08:33 | Orangelash | i thought i would pressure your gen side |
| 08:43 | Shipy00 | scout grenade can wipe tics without apsiring champ |
| 09:01 | Shipy00 | if you get shotgun scouts and grenades |
| 09:09 | Shipy00 | my tics are never ever gonna beat your scouts |
| 09:17 | Orangelash | should i prioritize shotguns or grenades? |
| 09:17 | Shipy00 | so you should have better capping ability |
| 09:29 | Shipy00 | grenade overall, cause scout sargeant is better |
| 09:32 | Shipy00 | more hp and stuff |
| 09:48 | Orangelash | wait he buffs them? |
| 10:07 | Shipy00 | scout seargent just has hp, he doesnt give scouts more hp i think |
| 10:21 | Shipy00 | here |
| 10:29 | Orangelash | oh yeah, it has more hp |
| 10:30 | Shipy00 | i will send tics mid, you throw a grenade |
| 10:40 | Orangelash | ok |
| 10:58 | Shipy00 | try to hit them while they are walking |
| 10:59 | Orangelash | jesus first person that doesn't just say "play better" or "noob" |
| 11:01 | Shipy00 | ok now |
| 11:13 | Shipy00 | throw it |
| 11:15 | Orangelash | you gonna walk? |
| 11:19 | Shipy00 | no this is fine |
| 11:29 | Shipy00 | tics bunch up when on the move |
| 11:34 | Shipy00 | so its easier to wipe them |
| 11:49 | Shipy00 | i will send normal ones, you will literally instant wipe them |
| 12:03 | Shipy00 | this matchup works like this, you have better side capping with scouts |
| 12:08 | Orangelash | uh i used to get shotguns first cause i am afraid of missing nade |
| 12:13 | Shipy00 | but i have slightly stronger main army |
| 12:23 | Shipy00 | you miss 100% of the grenades you dont throw |
| 12:30 | Shipy00 | lol |
| 12:33 | Orangelash | heh |
| 12:37 | Orangelash | got it |
| 12:49 | Shipy00 | boom |
| 12:50 | Orangelash | wew |
| 12:56 | Orangelash | i see |
| 13:02 | Shipy00 | see, thats why if you side cap well enough you can win overall |
| 13:19 | Orangelash | but it's a case of trying the nade |
| 13:23 | Orangelash | and if you miss |
| 13:27 | Orangelash | you have to retreat |
| 13:29 | Orangelash | right? |
| 13:39 | Shipy00 | not rly, thats the beauty of scouts |
| 13:52 | Shipy00 | here, i will send tics to scouts, dont x out, just run around and kite them |
| 13:57 | Shipy00 | dont x out |
| 14:00 | Shipy00 | just run around |
| 14:09 | Shipy00 | how the fuck will i catch them |
| 14:17 | Orangelash | uh |
| 14:30 | Orangelash | i had the idea they were faster |
| 14:32 | Shipy00 | see, if you micro them well enough, my tics are worthless |
| 14:49 | Shipy00 | just try to micro them when side capping |
| 15:00 | Orangelash | ok |
| 15:01 | Orangelash | hey |
| 15:03 | Orangelash | another thing |
| 15:07 | Orangelash | since you have been cool |
| 15:07 | Shipy00 | fight my main army with the rest of your army, you will be weaker but stay in it |
| 15:09 | Shipy00 | you outscale |
| 15:17 | Orangelash | ok |
| 15:24 | Orangelash | and in the initial fight |
| 15:35 | Orangelash | when you have like csm and lord |
| 15:53 | Orangelash | like the one we had at the beggining |
| 16:00 | Orangelash | how do you kite that? |
| 16:13 | Orangelash | just let the tacs stay back and send the scouts first since they kite better? |
| 16:24 | Orangelash | or send in the marines since they have more hp |
| 16:35 | Orangelash | i always get rolled the first fight with a melee champion |
| 16:42 | Shipy00 | yes tacs need to always stay back, once they are in melee your in trouble |
| 16:44 | Orangelash | literally always |
| 17:09 | Shipy00 | commander and csm vs commander and sm looks like this |
| 17:30 | Shipy00 | you kite my chaos lord, shoot him down or whatever, dont let him get close |
| 17:52 | Shipy00 | force commander vs tics kills them in seconds, also force commander vs csm is good |
| 17:57 | Shipy00 | for force commander |
| 18:20 | Shipy00 | cause csm have better melee than sm, but sm have better ranged dmg |
| 18:27 | Orangelash | ah |
| 18:35 | Shipy00 | you can see why they are better off ranged |
| 18:40 | Orangelash | that changes with eternal war, right? |
| 18:43 | Shipy00 | also your kraken shots of the sm, they deal more dmg |
| 19:03 | Shipy00 | eternal wall gives 15% more melee AND ranged dps, but still ranged favors sm |
| 19:11 | Orangelash | oh |
| 19:16 | Orangelash | had no clue |
| 19:25 | Orangelash | thought the early was just chaos sided |
| 19:33 | Shipy00 | you need to use kraken shot when you fight csm, that makes them super rekt |
| 19:39 | Shipy00 | i will send csm |
| 19:51 | Shipy00 | you shoot them with sm to see dmg |
| 19:55 | Shipy00 | then use kraken bolts to compare |
| 20:29 | Orangelash | uh |
| 20:30 | Shipy00 | hard to see but trust me |
| 20:33 | Shipy00 | way more dmg |
| 20:35 | Orangelash | it looked similar |
| 20:36 | Orangelash | ok |
| 20:37 | Orangelash | :D |
| 20:41 | Shipy00 | lol |
| 20:56 | Shipy00 | so early game is slightly chaos favored but if you side cap well you can win easy |
| 21:06 | Orangelash | okok |
| 21:10 | Shipy00 | chaos cant be at 2 places at once very well, sm can |
| 21:26 | Orangelash | so i should get seargent on side scouts |
| 21:28 | Shipy00 | cause of scouts, no one else in their roster can do that tho |
| 21:33 | Shipy00 | yeah |
| 21:42 | Orangelash | should i keep the second scouts stock? |
| 21:52 | Orangelash | until you join up with tics as well? |
| 22:07 | Shipy00 | umm i dont get the question |
| 22:13 | Orangelash | i started out with just going tacs and then a 1.5 unit |
| 22:19 | Orangelash | then i started getting 2 scouts |
| 22:29 | Orangelash | i send one to one side of the map to cap |
| 22:36 | Orangelash | and another with the main blob |
| 22:39 | Orangelash | to help kite |
| 22:41 | Shipy00 | 2 scouts and sm is your opener every single game, always more or less |
| 22:42 | Orangelash | is this right? |
| 22:46 | Shipy00 | yes |
| 22:50 | Shipy00 | 1 cap, 1 to help out |
| 23:11 | Shipy00 | tho 2 can cap, 2 can help, scouts are very fast so they can roam around |
| 23:22 | Orangelash | i see |
| 23:22 | Shipy00 | they are the most flexible unit you have for map control |
| 23:35 | Orangelash | i got the idea from watching casts |
| 23:39 | Shipy00 | depends on situation, the strength of sm is their tankiness |
| 23:48 | Shipy00 | watch torpid casts, hes great at explaining |
| 23:51 | Orangelash | like indrid and such, and the guys there sometimes skip them |
| 24:03 | Orangelash | oh i haven't watched him |
| 24:20 | Shipy00 | hes the only caster who knows what hes talking about |
| 24:22 | Shipy00 | trust me |
| 24:33 | Orangelash | but i mean watching some of the guys in the league play is like watching a whole dif |
| 24:37 | Shipy00 | indrid is a caster for fun, not education |
| 24:38 | Orangelash | different game |
| 24:52 | Orangelash | ok, i'll watch him |
| 25:05 | Shipy00 | ofc it is, in league play its all about predictions, rarely cookie cutter builds |
| 25:05 | Orangelash | thanks for the tips |
| 25:08 | Shipy00 | ofc man |
| 25:17 | Orangelash | hey you wanna do another one? |
| 25:21 | Orangelash | sorry if im being a pain |
| 25:23 | Shipy00 | 1 then i go study |
| 25:28 | Shipy00 | nah its fine |
| 25:28 | Orangelash | cool |
| 25:31 | Shipy00 | happy to help |
| 25:35 | Orangelash | ill ff |
| 25:38 | Shipy00 | ight |