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Chat
| 00:12 | SenpaiTorpidDow | the dreaded WSE mirror on GTG |
| 00:13 | Mostafa | good to see old timers back :) |
| 00:16 | Ls.Choko_Bambus | gl hf |
| 00:19 | Ls.Choko_Bambus | so many obs |
| 00:19 | Novacyt | hf |
| 00:20 | Ls.Choko_Bambus | :D |
| 00:21 | SenpaiTorpidDow | I noticed that Choko always plays maps that are super good for WSE lol |
| 00:22 | Ls.Choko_Bambus | i feel special |
| 00:33 | Mostafa | yeah lol ALWAYS |
| 00:34 | SenpaiTorpidDow | refinery, GTG, ashes |
| 00:55 | SenpaiTorpidDow | I just needed a break from the casting for a bit and actually felt an urge to play |
| 01:07 | SenpaiTorpidDow | tried out that 3x scout with techmarine vs eldar -> asm |
| 01:16 | Mostafa | yeah dow can be missed somtimes |
| 01:16 | SenpaiTorpidDow | seems really good, but man every eldar player now has forgot to use energy shields |
| 01:32 | Mostafa | its the shit vs eldars |
| 01:35 | Mostafa | so hard |
| 01:51 | Mostafa | u got mobility, eco, and good at fights |
| 02:04 | SenpaiTorpidDow | the constant potential to retreat wipe with nades is very nice |
| 02:08 | Mostafa | and ultimate repairs if u got dread |
| 02:14 | Mostafa | yup |
| 02:47 | SenpaiTorpidDow | I think you just gotta accept as eldar you will lose the t1 on map control |
| 02:51 | SenpaiTorpidDow | and you defo won't be bashing the SM |
| 03:03 | Mostafa | i remember the 1st one to do it back in the day was Noisy |
| 03:10 | SenpaiTorpidDow | just spam energy shields and play defensive, turtle in t2 and go for your warp |
| 03:10 | Mostafa | triple scouts used to be very popular |
| 03:12 | SenpaiTorpidDow | spiders + wraithlord |
| 03:20 | SenpaiTorpidDow | yeah but it didn't take off because it really wasn't that good =L |
| 03:26 | SenpaiTorpidDow | I am not totally convinced yet |
| 03:35 | SenpaiTorpidDow | Like I say, all these eldar never use energy shields which counter scouts quite hard |
| 03:38 | SenpaiTorpidDow | but yes you lose mobility of course |
| 03:45 | Mostafa | asms make up for engery shiled counter |
| 03:51 | SenpaiTorpidDow | but what do scouts do in t2 vs warp spider + 2 GU with warlock? nothing |
| 04:10 | Mostafa | well u need infiltration for sure |
| 04:26 | SenpaiTorpidDow | i got in t1, the dual infiltration last game, it's so strong |
| 04:33 | SenpaiTorpidDow | got me lots of gen bashes and an easy wipe on shuris with point blank nade |
| 04:37 | Mostafa | its crazy |
| 04:40 | Mostafa | very good value |
| 04:50 | Mostafa | the regen alone |
| 04:52 | Mostafa | is worth it |
| 04:56 | SenpaiTorpidDow | will be on my youtube channel in about 2months xD |
| 05:05 | Mostafa | :D |
| 05:19 | SenpaiTorpidDow | you should send in more games yourself mostafa |
| 05:30 | SenpaiTorpidDow | esp eldar games... I get fucking 1million chaos games, bored of them |
| 05:39 | Mostafa | will do, honeslty i have alot of projects now at work thats why i dont play very oft |
| 06:04 | Mostafa | yeah eldars, nids, orks are always more fun |
| 06:24 | SenpaiTorpidDow | nid replays are very rare, and very valuable to me ^^ |
| 06:32 | Mostafa | ^^ |
| 06:41 | SenpaiTorpidDow | I really enjoy playing nids, they teach good micro fundamentals |
| 06:57 | SenpaiTorpidDow | no messing around with abilities, just gotta learn to move correctly. Attack enemies |
| 07:04 | SenpaiTorpidDow | from multiple flanks. Stutter-step with your burst ranged units |
| 07:08 | Mostafa | yeah...but if only they get a good snare av at t2, they would be gr8 to play with |
| 07:17 | SenpaiTorpidDow | they would be too op then |
| 07:27 | SenpaiTorpidDow | venom do too much damage and TG too cheap and tanky if there is a good long range sn |
| 07:34 | SenpaiTorpidDow | but I do think they need help |
| 07:34 | Mostafa | i mean they worst nightmare for nids is chassing transports |
| 08:16 | SenpaiTorpidDow | I would like a hive guard upgrade on the tyrant guard |
| 08:27 | SenpaiTorpidDow | to make it function similar to venom cannon carnife |
| 08:39 | Mostafa | mmm intersting idea |
| 08:39 | SenpaiTorpidDow | long range anti vehicle tool, but immobile. So you use it to "zone" out transports |
| 08:52 | Mostafa | yeah |
| 08:57 | SenpaiTorpidDow | i know for sure nids will be very op if you just simply add the retail zoan snare |
| 08:59 | SenpaiTorpidDow | or something like it |
| 09:30 | SenpaiTorpidDow | I also hate how tyranid have such shit late game infantry |
| 09:34 | Mostafa | honstly is not easy to give them a good snare will maintaining balance |
| 09:39 | SenpaiTorpidDow | imagine ravs and genestealers being the most elite infantry... so bad... |
| 09:50 | Mostafa | indeed |
| 10:00 | Mostafa | thats one more problem |
| 10:07 | SenpaiTorpidDow | I would give them a 3 model SHI "warrior prime" squad in t3 if I was balance lead =P |
| 10:21 | Mostafa | :D thanks Adila |
| 10:29 | SenpaiTorpidDow | not as tanky as terminators, maybe 25% more than ogryns with synapse, but, they can |
| 10:31 | SenpaiTorpidDow | retreat |
| 10:45 | Mostafa | yeah sounds good |
| 10:46 | SenpaiTorpidDow | maybe they also have an extra strong melee/ranged synapse to help the gaunts scale |
| 10:47 | SenpaiTorpidDow | into t3 |
| 10:57 | Mostafa | for now nids are like win it in t1 or you are fucked |
| 11:01 | SenpaiTorpidDow | yes |
| 11:21 | Novacyt | too much micro for me |
| 11:21 | SenpaiTorpidDow | i don't play so cannot say for sure but they seem to be the weakest race |
| 11:35 | Mostafa | on high level playing thats the case imo |
| 11:35 | SenpaiTorpidDow | well, nids and ordo malleus |
| 11:42 | Mostafa | ordo are the worst |
| 11:45 | Mostafa | no contest lol |
| 11:57 | SenpaiTorpidDow | can that be fixed? |
| 12:05 | Mostafa | the nerf on the plasma ist made it worse |
| 12:26 | SenpaiTorpidDow | felt like it needed it; they were carrying the race too hard, just like when IST had |
| 12:27 | SenpaiTorpidDow | GLs |
| 12:39 | SenpaiTorpidDow | purgation are still absolutely shit |
| 12:44 | SenpaiTorpidDow | in basically all forms |
| 12:47 | Mostafa | they lack of a setupteam is hurting alort |
| 12:54 | Mostafa | YES |
| 13:05 | SenpaiTorpidDow | there was a test patch to rework them |
| 13:12 | SenpaiTorpidDow | but interest was quite low so i dont' think anybody really tried it... |
| 13:33 | Mostafa | its really sad, i used to play gk alot but now i dont even bother |
| 14:15 | Mostafa | i see choko is still rusty |
| 14:29 | SenpaiTorpidDow | ya only started playing again last week or smth |
| 14:34 | SenpaiTorpidDow | i'm less rusty because I'm a tww3 pro now lel |
| 14:35 | Mostafa | aha |
| 14:36 | SenpaiTorpidDow | so my micro is good |
| 14:45 | Mostafa | yeah lol |
| 15:13 | SenpaiTorpidDow | i hate how he buys targettered but no weapon upgrade on his wse |
| 15:21 | SenpaiTorpidDow | that's a retail thing - he mustn't realise how cost ineffective that is in elite |
| 15:36 | Mostafa | it really is |
| 15:41 | Mostafa | 25 power for nothing |
| 15:46 | Mostafa | or 30 |
| 15:53 | SenpaiTorpidDow | 11dps and + 7 range |
| 16:01 | SenpaiTorpidDow | horrible |
| 16:04 | Mostafa | yup |
| 16:12 | Mostafa | get a ranger for close to that cose |
| 16:15 | Mostafa | cost" |
| 17:00 | SenpaiTorpidDow | he's been buying a lot of the eldar elite infantry |
| 17:10 | SenpaiTorpidDow | I'm not really a fan of them though |
| 17:30 | Mostafa | they can be countered with most elite t3 units |
| 17:30 | SenpaiTorpidDow | prefer what Nova is doing - keep the T2 light, mostly vehicles, maybe an autarch |
| 17:34 | SenpaiTorpidDow | other than that spam shurikens and get t3 |
| 17:41 | Mostafa | yeah same here |
| 18:05 | SenpaiTorpidDow | if I was balance lead dark reapers would be a t3 elite ranged unit with 4 models max |
| 18:11 | SenpaiTorpidDow | because eldar is another race which has really awful elite infantry |
| 18:16 | Mostafa | firedragons are awesome tho vs eldars...their heavy armor helps alot |
| 18:41 | Mostafa | i beat WSE one on one with firedragons lol |
| 18:46 | SenpaiTorpidDow | i had anxiety about the wraithlord doing a special attack earlier |
| 19:19 | SenpaiTorpidDow | comeon warp spiders... where are the gates |
| 19:19 | Mostafa | his special attack can be deadly somtimes |
| 19:38 | SenpaiTorpidDow | and by "sometimes" you mean, any time you actually have a squad within range of it L |
| 19:41 | SenpaiTorpidDow | it is terrifying |
| 19:46 | Mostafa | lel |
| 19:48 | Mostafa | indeed |
| 20:27 | Mostafa | the fake cover lol |
| 20:34 | Mostafa | where the WSE died |
| 20:36 | SenpaiTorpidDow | yeah haha |
| 20:58 | SenpaiTorpidDow | seer council duels are so ridiculous |
| 21:07 | Mostafa | los ot ouchs |
| 21:27 | SenpaiTorpidDow | omg |
| 21:29 | SenpaiTorpidDow | why did he not tele after it |
| 21:30 | Mostafa | mmm could this be a comeback lol |
| 21:32 | SenpaiTorpidDow | 1hp |
| 21:50 | SenpaiTorpidDow | noooo |
| 21:52 | Mostafa | here goes |
| 21:52 | SenpaiTorpidDow | the special attack |
| 21:54 | Mostafa | lol |
| 22:01 | Mostafa | dead |
| 22:03 | SenpaiTorpidDow | nova you lucker |
| 22:06 | Mostafa | XD |
| 22:18 | Mostafa | i like how he is taking a break to heal; lol |
| 22:26 | Mostafa | like fuck off |
| 22:28 | SenpaiTorpidDow | wtf why is he running |
| 22:29 | SenpaiTorpidDow | just melee it |
| 22:44 | SenpaiTorpidDow | that was kinda lame, the special saved nova's wl |
| 22:51 | Mostafa | yeah it was |
| 22:57 | SenpaiTorpidDow | ah well, such is dow2 |
| 23:02 | Mostafa | XD |
| 23:10 | Mostafa | a prime example |
| 23:40 | SenpaiTorpidDow | no gates |
| 23:41 | SenpaiTorpidDow | wtf is this |
| 23:41 | Mostafa | Nova could have finished the vp game so early |
| 23:45 | Mostafa | he didnt push it enough |
| 24:04 | Mostafa | gay elars dont get gates |
| 24:15 | Mostafa | i mostly finish my red on gates |
| 24:33 | Mostafa | lol |
| 24:34 | SenpaiTorpidDow | ahhh the sound effect on eldritch is so good |
| 24:38 | Mostafa | party time |
| 24:48 | SenpaiTorpidDow | sound design in this game is amazing |
| 24:55 | Ls.Choko_Bambus | oof my reapers |
| 24:56 | Mostafa | its the best honesly |
| 25:01 | Mostafa | nothing comes close |
| 25:04 | Mostafa | tile 2022 |
| 25:07 | Mostafa | till" |
| 25:13 | SenpaiTorpidDow | i dunno, coh2 had fantastic sound design as well |
| 25:26 | Mostafa | yeah they are both similar |
| 25:27 | Mostafa | but |
| 25:27 | SenpaiTorpidDow | unfortunately the game was pretty garbage on release |
| 25:36 | Mostafa | the dow voice acting is unbeleivable |
| 25:43 | SenpaiTorpidDow | but it's easier to design realistic sound for a WW2 game than a fantasy one |
| 25:53 | Mostafa | yup thats the thing |
| 26:06 | Mostafa | i swear till now i hear new lines for ork squads |
| 26:14 | SenpaiTorpidDow | yes haha, so do I, it's crazy |
| 26:18 | SenpaiTorpidDow | and the voice acting truly is so good |
| 26:20 | Mostafa | its CRAZY |
| 26:25 | Mostafa | yeah |
| 26:30 | SenpaiTorpidDow | very immersive |
| 26:39 | Mostafa | and dynamic |
| 26:46 | Novacyt | well |
| 27:19 | Mostafa | that WL wont die lol |
| 27:27 | Mostafa | level 4 |
| 27:28 | SenpaiTorpidDow | wl are so good |
| 27:33 | SenpaiTorpidDow | look at his hp regen |
| 27:39 | Mostafa | wow |
| 27:41 | SenpaiTorpidDow | bloody eldar technology |
| 27:46 | Mostafa | XD |
| 27:58 | SenpaiTorpidDow | why can't leman russ regen like that LOL |
| 28:05 | Mostafa | LOL |
| 28:21 | Mostafa | to give the anti ig crazy gange a reason to suiside |
| 28:25 | Mostafa | gang" |
| 28:34 | SenpaiTorpidDow | hell yeah. Lots of QQ |
| 29:03 | SenpaiTorpidDow | this was a gg in the end, i should have just cast this ffs |
| 29:15 | Mostafa | yeah un expected |
| 29:16 | SenpaiTorpidDow | ah well my voice needs a break anyway |
| 29:31 | Novacyt | pls spare me some req |
| 29:34 | Ls.Choko_Bambus | i have no idea what this game is |
| 29:36 | Ls.Choko_Bambus | super fun tho |
| 29:50 | Mostafa | 400 power lol |
| 29:55 | SenpaiTorpidDow | haha |
| 32:54 | Mostafa | gg |
| 32:57 | Ls.Choko_Bambus | gg wp! |
| 33:01 | Mostafa | WL MVP |
| 33:02 | SenpaiTorpidDow | gg idd |
| 33:04 | Novacyt | gg |