Muahaha, Torpid's definition factors in win rate...success.

I haven't tried this, but does removing the -dev option work?

Might I suggest listing the melee resist damage as a passive on the abilities page?

I'm on my phone, so it could be bugged, but I'm showing 0.01 DPS for Plague Champion sword on the weapons tab.
http://dawnofwar.info/index.php?page=el ... e_champion
http://dawnofwar.info/elite/weapon.php? ... aguemarine

i can haz checksum? I can make one when I get back, but if anyone else wants to make a file to just quickly check to make sure people's installs are setup properly, it could help some of these problems maybe possibly.

Am I confused or does the codex list the power sword as 0.01 DPS (on the weapons page, not the war gear page)?
http://dawnofwar.info/index.php?page=el ... e_champion
http://dawnofwar.info/elite/weapon.php? ... aguemarine

Torpid wrote:Micro is far more important than micro at low-level.

Typo methinks.

The difference though is that statistics about which hero wins most often or which race wins most often don't directly imply that it is the hero/race that is making the difference in win ratio. This is different from a unit that is blatantly not OP because it is blatantly obvious that if you buy th...

The fact that we can't have units in multiple control groups drives me batty, but I assume that's an engine limitation. But for the love of all that is holy the positioning of the unload key throws me off. I'm using grid keys so if I have a transport unit selected, it changes all of my hotkeys on ev...

It's strange that DoW2 is the only thing that lags your computer though. Like I mentioned previously it's got a problem with memory leaks, but those can be resolved by restarting the client, and you're not running it long enough to really be a problem. I recommend a clean install.

The point of that was to show that winning is everything. If a unit is some unstoppable juggernaut but has no contribution to you winning then it's not OP. The only real way to illustrate that is by something that is very powerful but restores VP to your opponent and drains yours at a rate that make...

I am not speaking for the devs, but the message I got from the foregoing conversation is that they'll make whatever units they have the models for, regardless of how well thought out other units may be.

Torpid wrote:No ... a 'I lose' button, yet still an uncounterable unit.

This

Ooh ooh, do Terran or Zerg, you'd only have to change the SM or Tyranid models slightly.

Before people get mad, I'm jk btw....

If you're using an antivirus, make sure it's not deleting the DLLs from Copes. I had that problem with Norton when I first downloaded Copes.

at least with a sample size and skill-level size and arguably terrible meta-basis that we have had to draw statistics from so far. I am pretty sure this is what I have been saying since the beginning. Haha you're right then. However I think the initial hostility comes from the fact that we won't at...

Torpid wrote:at least with a sample size and skill-level size and arguably terrible meta-basis that we have had to draw statistics from so far.

I am pretty sure this is what I have been saying since the beginning.

What if there were some unstoppably powerful unit with no counterplay that always caused you to lose if you built it? Idk say it makes you hemmorage 50 VP a second or destroys your HQ so you can never build more units or reinforce or fall back? Would you say that is op?

Is your answer to my hypothetical games "yes"? Because if it is, I think I will not be capable of understanding your analogy, and will cease here. Alternatively, I will attempt to explain why your analogy does not accurately reflect the circumstances of my proposition. EDIT: In the meantim...

Might we pause for a moment? I do not wish to engage in hostile discussion as my first introduction to the community. Are people really saying that whether a race wins is not relevant to whether or not that race is overpowered, or am I misunderstanding what you're saying? If we took 10 million hypot...

Stats on win rate and popularity massively over simplify the issue of balance. They're not useful in any non-negligible way. I don't think I'm understanding you correctly. It is your assertion that there is either no, or negligible correlation between whether a race wins and whether or not it is ba...

sawbladex wrote:Thanks for the multiplayer unit stats Eclipse.

I had managed to find those on my own, which is why I am asking about the single player campaign stats. For that, the dow.wikia isn't particularly useful.

My apologies, I responded too hastily.

I mean forget all the above. Let's assume the statistics are right. We have made no progress whatsoever. Now we know what is OP, but we still don't have a clue what about the OP things is actually making them OP! No progress at all. I agree with this. If you read my original post, it was responding...

I think, probably, the metric that I would use would be to look to heroes or races that are more than +/- 1 std dev in both popularity and win ratio as the first things that might need rebalancing. As for acceptable P value, I'd probably take one that was really high actually. Why? Because if the nu...

What are you using by the way? I assume your machine isn't overheating or you would be having problems in other games. But mouse, keyboard, monitor? V sync enabled? I've got the SLI set up I mentioned before and it used to cause me crazy lag in Tomb Raider and Skyrim until they patched it. MSI after...

A Post Regarding "Statistical Outliers" Don't you think the fact that they are statistical outliers skews the graphs in a certain way? If 20 people play 1 match as LA and lose that would lower the results of the LA in your example. Or it could be A lot of players play FC once and play bad...

I'll be more explicit here I guess, the statistics are either: Not Useful Because: they are out of date, because the sample size is not large enough, because it is not representative of the population being a voluntary system, because we don't like the n00bs who participate, because the uploader's c...

My sincerest of apologies. You are correct that I did not predict your particular reason for finding them to be not useful. However, given that the analysis, conclusion, and recommendation for information that is unreliable for being out of date and information that is unreliable for any other reaso...

I take those graphs to be relevant given their existence. If you thoroughly read my post then you saw that I acknowledged that they may not provide useful information in an attempt to preempt your exact response. Apparently I was unsuccessful.