Bugs/Issues Thread

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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Orkfaeller » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 11:51 pm

Wasnt it actually planned at some point to have the connected bunkers in ELITE?
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Nuclear Arbitor » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 11:57 pm

i suspect it could still be done but it would have to be with an ability.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby PePPeR » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 12:51 am

I was playing Winter Assault last night for some fun and was thinking the exact same thing.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby sk4zi » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 9:45 am

yesterday i upgradet my tacs to sternguard with only 2 model scouts next to them

the scouts were reinforcing by the teleport after the upgrade.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Orkfaeller » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 2:36 pm

sk4zi wrote:yesterday i upgradet my tacs to sternguard with only 2 model scouts next to them

the scouts were reinforcing by the teleport after the upgrade.


Can we have this an actual feature of Ven / Sternguards? Reinforcing allies when teleporting in?
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby sk4zi » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 2:41 pm

that would be cool

a great reason to get them even if the squads are leveled
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Torpid » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 3:11 pm

Orkfaeller wrote:
sk4zi wrote:yesterday i upgradet my tacs to sternguard with only 2 model scouts next to them

the scouts were reinforcing by the teleport after the upgrade.


Can we have this an actual feature of Ven / Sternguards? Reinforcing allies when teleporting in?


What, that's crazy?

That would completely go against he principles of the game. Purchase a niche-upgrade in the middle of the fight so that you automatically win an engagement and then are left with a unit you didn't necessarily want?

If you were motivated to get them anyway then why does this buff have to be implemented, if you just wanted the combat boost then that is what the drop pod is for and that costs 200 red for a reason.

When you make choices in dawn of war the point is that they are meant to be final and you cannot be forgiving for doing so. This is why the prospect of recycling generators once they are fully built is terrible, or sacrificing units for that matter too. Dawn of War is a game highly investing itself in macro over micro, and that's actually a part of the RTT instead of the RTS, you can't win in DOW because you have the better strategy going into the game, or at least doing so is MUCH harder to do than it is in many other RTS' where a simple BO can dictate who wins the game, because the game is more forgiving to mistakes.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Dark Riku » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 7:02 pm

sk4zi wrote:Yesterday I upgraded my tacs to Sternguard with only 2 model scouts next to them. The scouts were reinforcing by the teleport after the upgrade.
It's Intended. A 'feature' they have.

That Torpid Gamer wrote:What, that's crazy?
-How does it go against the game principal? °_O
-How would it even for the slightest make you auto-win an engagement? °_O
You can't instantly do it in the middle of a fight.
The reinforce aura happens when they first hit the field and only then.
You pay for the reinforcing.
-Drop pod takes a shit ton of time to drop and acts like a reinforce point afterwards.
They are not the same at all.
-And lasts but most important. This thread is for bug reporting.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Torpid » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 7:18 pm

I assumed he meant for it to reinforce like a drop pod, i.e. for free. I know that they already let you reinforce when they come in, but I'm not exactly sure why that is, it seems a bit random.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Arbit » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 9:45 pm

So that's why I've been able to reinforce at seemingly random times...

Is it really intended? I mean, as a one shot effect you'll see once per game (if that), it's such a minor bonus that it's not even a balance concern. It just seems pretty dang random... What's the idea behind other squads reinforcing off what is essentially a call-in? AFAIK it doesn't happen when you call in spiders, kommandos, termies, etc... maybe it makes sense for the nid call-ins because they have that biomass thing going on.

Just curious about the logic behind it, really.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Lulgrim » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 10:17 pm

I've said this many times - it's a leftover from when SG/VG arrived by drop pod. The arrival was changed into teleport instead, but the same spawner entity remained.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Forestradio » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 10:22 pm

Lulgrim wrote:I've said this many times - it's a leftover from when SG/VG arrived by drop pod. The arrival was changed into teleport instead, but the same spawner entity remained.


could you change it a a terminator-style teleport-in? :geek:

That doesn't reinforce nearby units.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Dark Riku » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 10:46 pm

Arbit wrote:Is it really intended?
Yes it is. I don't feel like looking for the Caeltos quote.
But if you go through the entire forum you'll be bound to find it ^^

Radio the Forest wrote:That doesn't reinforce nearby units.
Why? It's only "useful" if you win a fight then immediately decide to upgrade and keep your wounded squad(s) around instead of capping the map? :/
Or is there some crazy ass shit I'm missing here?

Edit: Shouldn't have even posted something like this here. My bad.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Forestradio » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 10:48 pm

@Riku

I'm not discussing whether or not this feature of the stern/van upgrade is intended or whether it is useful or overpowered.

I AM suggesting a possible way to fix it IF it is a glitch. :|
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Arbit » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 11:05 pm

@Lulgrim
Got it, thanks.

From the way you described it (i.e. "left over" from an earlier iteration) it sounds like it's not intended, but as far as not intended things go, it's more of a weird inconsistency on the "who gives a shit" side of the spectrum
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Caeltos » Thu 31 Oct, 2013 11:28 pm

Being able to reinforce from Sternguard/Vanguard "transformations" are not intended. It doesn't make any sense, and was never intended.

The squad going from 1/4 to 4/4 members from the purchase is fine for now however.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Lulgrim » Fri 01 Nov, 2013 5:18 am

Arbit wrote:From the way you described it (i.e. "left over" from an earlier iteration) it sounds like it's not intended, but as far as not intended things go, it's more of a weird inconsistency on the "who gives a shit" side of the spectrum

Yes we kinda just forgot it like that, as the reinforcement thing didn't come up immediately. Of course the reinforce field can be easily removed.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Dark Riku » Fri 01 Nov, 2013 1:40 pm

I could have sworn you posted that on the forums or said that in a steammessage :/
Must be mistaking then. My bad. Doesn't matter if it stays or goes anyways I think ^^
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Ace of Swords » Sun 03 Nov, 2013 4:54 pm

Sorc global Warp still often bugs with crushers, it also seems it's not working on upgrading chaos vehicles. (Or atleast it didn't work on a dread that was getting the Tzeentch mark).
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Sub_Zero » Sun 03 Nov, 2013 6:20 pm

Sorc global Warp still often bugs with crushers

Confirm it. Was not able to teleport away my bloodcrusher from enemy's base
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Shas'el Doran'ro » Mon 04 Nov, 2013 12:34 am

Just a reminder, the Inquisitorial Storm Troopers are still missing their Voice Overs subsequently making them difficult to micro if you don't have them in your field of view constantly.

Giving them back the Storm Trooper voices so you actually have a chance to respond if they're under attack outside of your field of view, would be a nice fix.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Orkfaeller » Thu 07 Nov, 2013 12:51 am

Any idea why my Alpha Legion [ELITE] Noise Marines get this super shiny leg?

It looks fine in the armypainter, but ingame it seems broken. Is the texture missing ?Or are the bump maps screwed up? It looks very reflective in the painter, but it doesnt radiate like this.

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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Faultron » Thu 07 Nov, 2013 1:01 am

Orkfaeller wrote:Any idea why my Alpha Legion [ELITE] Noise Marines get this super shiny leg?

It looks fine in the armypainter, but ingame it seems broken. Is the texture missing ?Or are the bump maps screwed up? It looks very reflective in the painter, but it doesnt radiate like this.

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well ingame everything looks different from armypainter
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Toilailee » Thu 07 Nov, 2013 4:28 am

Have a replay vs Codex where shees literally fleeted through stun bomb and kept retreat killing shit. Yes they were hit and the red stun indicator appeared on them, but they didn't care. Codex also noticed what had happened --> this isn't just me raging.

No idea what caused it, never happened to me before.


ps. I haven't read patch notes so in case this is just another eldar buff and not a bug, feel free to slap me.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Nuclear Arbitor » Thu 07 Nov, 2013 6:58 am

consider yourself slapped for thinking it might be a buff.

i'll let someone else do the actual slapping.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Lag » Thu 07 Nov, 2013 12:38 pm

Is the Brother Captain's armor HI? It says so in the tooltip.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Indrid » Thu 07 Nov, 2013 1:34 pm

No.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Belutima » Fri 08 Nov, 2013 12:47 am

The hat for my Inquisitor won't show up, it just isn't there.
Is that a new design for it or is it just bugging out not showing the tophat.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Lulgrim » Fri 08 Nov, 2013 1:06 am

Hat has been a rank unlock for quite some time.
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Re: Bugs/Issues Thread

Postby Belutima » Fri 08 Nov, 2013 2:01 am

Lulgrim wrote:Hat has been a rank unlock for quite some time.

do you know which rank do I need for the hat, can't find the answer on the wikia?

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