So, first of all - a big 'thank you' to Uncle Milty and Caeltos for taking their time to write such long and precise comments on my music! That kind of feedback might for many people might seem discouraging, since (let's be honest here) everyone expects others to love their works and appreciate all the effort. Well, actually it's not quite like that. Once you get over that feeling, you get to realize how valuable are all those opinions. Especially from people who took their time and wrote at lenght about your work.
And this is what it's actually all about for me
If people wouldn't like what I'm doing they wouldn't take their time to write lenghty posts about it. On the other hand, if they do write lenghty posts, it means (at least for me), that I'm treated as a professional. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is far more satisfying than even the sweetest compliment.
But to the point
Uncle Milty wrote:t the moment i feel the menu track expresses "concern" rather than "war"
I might be wrong here, but I think it may be because the track takes too long to develop into more tense sounds. Maybe that's just me, though.
Uncle Milty wrote:t would be epic if the game switches to this song when you are low on vps, this would really intensify the overall gameplay
I don't think that's possible, sadly. Still, I might be wrong here.
Uncle Milty wrote:the menu song should have elements in it to represent all races to some extend - ofc without getting messy or overloaded (maybe a longer loop?)
I can totally agree with that. However, not making a track messy means that you should have it divided into sections and then combine them into a longer loop, as you said. This is a bit problematic, since it forces you to decide on the sequence of those sections. Sure, Eldar fans (myself included) would love to hear an eldar-themed section at the very beginning, right after you launch the game. But that's not fair, is it? As far as I know, every time you make a soundtrack, you have to make compromise. You simply can't encompass every aspect of the game at hand.
Uncle Milty wrote:I know this is a difficult task and requires a lot of reworking, rehearsal and 2nd opinions. Well be sure that you will always get to hear my opinions, if you want to or not.
And those 2nd opinions are always more than welcome, so rest assured I will always want them
Unlce Milty wrote:i know those last 2 tracks aren't meant to be wh40k stuff. But i think it could be useful to know what would work (in other people's opinion
Well, actually all of the tracks I featured here are wh40k stuff
They were heavily inspired by that universe.
Caeltos wrote:in the Warhammer 40K, there's no real such thing. There's just pure and utter chaos, and if there's a chance you'll win/come out on-top. There's going to be a price to pay, and it'll either be heavy losses, or sacrifices to be made,
I can't quite agree with that. I mean, sure, all sentient races are pretty much at war with each other, but I wouldn't bring it all down to utter chaos and constant sacrifices. The DoW franchise isn't exactly representing what is the wh40k universe like. Let me give you a few examples:
1) Space Marines and CSM are an elite strike force. Chapters are not made for all-out warfare. The main task of the Space Marines is to strike precise and game-changing blows. Prolonged battles tend to not end well for Space Marines due to the loss of gene-seeds. I would call them spec-ops with a hell of a brutish element.
2) Eldar are an even better example of this. They intervene only when it's absolutely necessary, since their resources are even more stretched out than SM's. No Chaos here, nor war. Just clean and precise strikes.
3) Orks, Tyranids and Imperial Guard on the other hand, have almost unlimited numbers and reserves are on constant supply to the battlefield. Chaos? Sure. War? You bet. Sacrifice? Not so much. IG Lord Generals don't give a damn even if thousands die carrying out their orders. Tyraninds and Orks don't have any kind of empathy, so they don't give a damn even more. Where's the sacrifice here?
It all comes down to the problem I have with DoW2. It neither represents simple skirmishes nor all-out battles. It's something in-between. Having that in mind, I may just understand what you mean.
Caeltos]Epic Score, Tarek Mansur, Brand X Music[/quote]
A BIG thumbs up for that
[quote="Caeltos wrote:Space Marines - Stoic, and Heroic
You'll have to help me with this one
Could you give me a link to a track that is heroic and at the same time not at least one bit uplifting?
Caeltos wrote:The Main theme should try to find a balance between all corresponding factions, OR at least try to get a sense of theme going for it. The theme should be of course - There is only War. The music should go along when you're doing things in the background. That means, checking things in the Army Painter, or replays or sticking around in the lobby.
As I wrote earlier to Uncle Milty, it's nigh on impossible to strike that balance between all factions. If not for all the technical issues, then because of the sequence the parts corresponding to different factions are played. I agree with you, that the music should fit all the menu options, be it either an army painter, last stand or looking for a public game. That is true. And surprisingly tricky to achieve
Whatever the case, I thank you both for the extended comments. Any kind of feedback is invaluable in pursuing an artistic career
As I said, the track for the menu is just a draft for the time being. I can promise you, I will try to make it better, more grim and reflecting more factions.
However, it might turn out, I'm not good enough for this. I work on a limited number of instruments. Sadly, I can't afford all of those beautiful sound libraries weighting like 50 GB each. Like I said, I'm working on some really crappy equipment and good luck on upgrading that while working part-time on Vostroya... I mean in Poland
. Just putting that out, so that it won't come to anyone as a surprise, that I might decide to abandon the effort to make music for Elite.
In the end, I think it's better to resign sometimes, than to make crap and have it signed with your name.
Emperor, forgive me for such a grim ending
Maybe the conjunction of both parts could have been delayed a lil more (2 tacts) to intensify the whole fealing just to the roof with these rising strings. But that would be something to be tested out if it works. Other than that i like the variation beginning at ~1.40 a lot.
I liked your stuff...
