LG Creeping Barrage damage tweak?

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LG Creeping Barrage damage tweak?

Postby Cheah18 » Mon 17 Mar, 2014 2:50 pm

This global got a very well needed nerf in elite. However, I think that although the increase in time between blasts is a very good thing, the power of the barrage is so weak that its really not that great. Its really not that hard to dodge because of the time delay so I thought that an increase in damage might be appropriate if it can make the barrage more threatening to the opponent and require more attention.

Compared to something like noxious cloud which can really ruin your day, the global seems a bit meagre atm. Having higher damage potential (that is, if you're opponent fails to dodge) would be more punishing for an opponent who fails to dodge properly.

Would be good to hear people's thoughts.
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Re: LG Creeping Barrage damage tweak?

Postby Raffa » Mon 17 Mar, 2014 3:11 pm

This is one of the best globals in T2. It can disrupt whole armies and let you attack entrenched positions by de-setting up setup teams. It is the disruptor while your army brings the punch.

Where you're coming from would be correct if it was intended to be a damaging global (like noxious cloud), however it is not. It is extremely disruptive as is intended, with some damage to boot. Great global.
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Re: LG Creeping Barrage damage tweak?

Postby Cheah18 » Mon 17 Mar, 2014 3:35 pm

I agree, however again using NC as an example, this pretty much does disrupt as, if it lands say on an IG or Eldar force, you pretty much have to retreat or you lose your units in a matter of seconds. However if you move a little out the way of the barrage, you're all good. Seems a little lacklustre in comparison imo.
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Re: LG Creeping Barrage damage tweak?

Postby BaptismByLoli » Mon 17 Mar, 2014 3:51 pm

Cheah18 wrote:using NC as an example, this pretty much does disrupt as, if it lands say on an IG or Eldar force, you pretty much have to retreat or you lose your units in a matter of seconds.

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What?
If you can spot it early on, noxious cloud can be avoided and if you do spot it albeit a bit late and react slowler, at most you're gonna lose a few models. A bleed that IG and Eldar can handle though it will be more painful for Eldar. And if I'm not mistaken, Noxious Cloud moves slower than most if not all T1 and T2 units so its not that big of a deal. And it doesn't disrupt at all IMO cause all I need to do is just click away from the Cloud and I'm pretty much safe while my units can still continue firing while on the move.
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Re: LG Creeping Barrage damage tweak?

Postby Torpid » Mon 17 Mar, 2014 4:33 pm

Barrage is clearly being used wrong if your foe simply sidesteps out of the way and is totally unhindered, much like cloud is being used wrong if you drop it and your foe pulls back and then reengages you and wins the enagement.

Basically what Raffa said. It's so damn good. It can instantly deal with half of an opponents army if they pincer you, it can be amazing in teams for blocking off one whole area of the map, it can instantly de-setup units to allow your vehicles to survive when they otherwise wouldn't and assuming one shell hits the KB causes the rest to hit which overall makes it do quite a huge amount of damage. Hellfury may be better at retreat killing in elite than the barrage but the overall utility of the barrage is way better than that of hellfury and I'd kill to have that barrage instead of the stormtrooper CD for my Inq (I can't give up hellfury at this point, I've fallen in love with that despite what I just said).
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Re: LG Creeping Barrage damage tweak?

Postby Kvek » Mon 17 Mar, 2014 4:35 pm

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Re: LG Creeping Barrage damage tweak?

Postby BaptismByLoli » Mon 17 Mar, 2014 4:39 pm

Yea, that pretty much sums up how CB is supposed to be used.
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