I have been wishing to learn Swedish for a while now and will be looking into what classes are available where I am that I could conceivably do. I want to learn the language because I hope that when I start writing the twisted thoughts of my tortured brain I will move there (because it isn't Britain, and whilst parts of Britain are nice, I want somewhere else).
Even if you cannot help me directly it would be nice to know how long it took for everyone to learn English if it isn't their native language, because I have always thought English was a nightmare to learn, but those who I have spoken to say it was actually quite easy to get to grips.
Any feedback is appreciated.
Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
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Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
Well, I can only address your question about learning English (I'm russian myself, and well, an idea to learn Swedish never really occured to me).
I think I began to learn it when I was a kid, as far as I can remember, I was exposed to some English is long before I went to school (mostly through popular media intended for that very purpose, plus some pre-school classes).
Obviously, video games played some role in it as nobody really cared about that particular media here back then, and translated versions only hit shelves much later. Throw in some school classes that solidified my understanding of grammar (I still suck when it comes to certain cases though), and well...
My main point though is that it wasn't before I've started to purposefully learning the language later on that I actually started to make any sense in English. Forcing progress in terms of vocabulary and grammar, trying to write down any word I come across that I don't understand to look it up later, figuring out common expressions, idioms and grammar constructs you don't see every day helped.
All in all, it took me about 1.5 years to get better this way, and then add some practice of composing sentences (but mostly in written form, I'm still too slow to speak freely, thanks to lack of practice, gaping holes in day-to-day vocabulary as obviously you don't touch everyday life too often when posting on Internet, also not helped by the fact I'm not too eloquent in the first place), and that's getting you somewhere.
From what I've seen, this number is fairly accurate as people I knew managed to start speaking well enough within about 2 years while learning languages more or less from scratch (what I mean is like learning Finnish or Japanese knowing only Russian, English or French, knowledge that can hardly help with one of the former).
Speaking of difficulties, well, I wouldn't say that learning English was hard (as soon as I started to actually try, that's it), but it took some time to take mine from basic level to at least meeting some norms of spoken language. I have some experience learning French (school program and all...), but I've never really cared of actually achieveing something there. That said, it probably is harder, so there's a comparision for you. Nothing too bad either though.
All in all, it was considered common knowledge here that English is among the easiest languages to learn among those that are used actively almost everywhere these days (probably as a consequence), so there's that.
And well... I have no idea how it was supposed to be of any help for you, but I felt like sharing
I think I began to learn it when I was a kid, as far as I can remember, I was exposed to some English is long before I went to school (mostly through popular media intended for that very purpose, plus some pre-school classes).
Obviously, video games played some role in it as nobody really cared about that particular media here back then, and translated versions only hit shelves much later. Throw in some school classes that solidified my understanding of grammar (I still suck when it comes to certain cases though), and well...
My main point though is that it wasn't before I've started to purposefully learning the language later on that I actually started to make any sense in English. Forcing progress in terms of vocabulary and grammar, trying to write down any word I come across that I don't understand to look it up later, figuring out common expressions, idioms and grammar constructs you don't see every day helped.
All in all, it took me about 1.5 years to get better this way, and then add some practice of composing sentences (but mostly in written form, I'm still too slow to speak freely, thanks to lack of practice, gaping holes in day-to-day vocabulary as obviously you don't touch everyday life too often when posting on Internet, also not helped by the fact I'm not too eloquent in the first place), and that's getting you somewhere.
From what I've seen, this number is fairly accurate as people I knew managed to start speaking well enough within about 2 years while learning languages more or less from scratch (what I mean is like learning Finnish or Japanese knowing only Russian, English or French, knowledge that can hardly help with one of the former).
Speaking of difficulties, well, I wouldn't say that learning English was hard (as soon as I started to actually try, that's it), but it took some time to take mine from basic level to at least meeting some norms of spoken language. I have some experience learning French (school program and all...), but I've never really cared of actually achieveing something there. That said, it probably is harder, so there's a comparision for you. Nothing too bad either though.
All in all, it was considered common knowledge here that English is among the easiest languages to learn among those that are used actively almost everywhere these days (probably as a consequence), so there's that.
And well... I have no idea how it was supposed to be of any help for you, but I felt like sharing
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Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
The time you need depends a lot. I mean how much time are willing to spend studying, are you naturally gifted with languages. Ofc if you make a language trip there or if you know someone who is a svennebög, you could try to use Swedish with him.
Swedish is a fairly simple language (not that many exceptions etc.) and rather similar to English (both being germanic languages) so you shouldn't have too much trouble.
I am a finn (so I do not speak a germanic language as my native language) and I was able to read novels in English. I started studyin English when I was 9 (I did need to use a vocabulary a bit though). I played games in English and watched TV so those helped me out a lot. Especially the games when I was younger. After that reading novels really taught me a lot.
I don't think it should be a huge challenge for you to learn Swedish. Maybe two years or so and you should be just fine.
Swedish is a fairly simple language (not that many exceptions etc.) and rather similar to English (both being germanic languages) so you shouldn't have too much trouble.
I am a finn (so I do not speak a germanic language as my native language) and I was able to read novels in English. I started studyin English when I was 9 (I did need to use a vocabulary a bit though). I played games in English and watched TV so those helped me out a lot. Especially the games when I was younger. After that reading novels really taught me a lot.
I don't think it should be a huge challenge for you to learn Swedish. Maybe two years or so and you should be just fine.
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Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
Does understanding multiple vulgarities in any specific language mean that you know how to speak in said language?
Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
Swedish should be cake for an English speaker, if you cba to actually study it you should survive daily life in 6 months.
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svennebög
Woah, hey.
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Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
There is definitely much to learn either way, but I am really interested to learn the language, as I have been learning German for five years at school and not really got anything because the way they teach you is not to speak it, it is to answer little questions, which is not useful at all.
If anyone has any Swedish media that they can share or any recommendations of books to read. I was also looking around for classes in my area because I know that the basics will be very useful.
And what is a "Svennebog"?
If anyone has any Swedish media that they can share or any recommendations of books to read. I was also looking around for classes in my area because I know that the basics will be very useful.
And what is a "Svennebog"?
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Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
Don't... just don't. Such useless and gay language, unless you plan on moving to Sweden you're never going to need it.
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Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
That is exactly why I want to learn it.
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Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
Swiftsabre wrote:That is exactly why I want to learn it.
Well, I actually wanted to ask that - why Sweden?
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Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
Svennebög could prolly be loosely translated as "Swede faggot" or something along the lines. Anyway "bög" means gay/faggot. And svenne is (perhaps a bit derogatory) term for a swedish person.
If you know German that should really make Swedish even easier to understand. Imo Swedish is way easier than German.
If you know German that should really make Swedish even easier to understand. Imo Swedish is way easier than German.
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Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
Well that is a very good thing then. If anyone has anything useful I would really like that (novels, articles, documentaries, tv programmes). Actually I have been watching a Danish series called The Killing (completely off topic but it is really good and this is Random Shit after all). If there is anything I need to know, please tell me.
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Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
or you could try to watch some series ,anime ,cartoons enz. with swedisch subtitles that's how i learned english.
although it maybe hard to find
although it maybe hard to find
Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
That is my problem, any sort of media is welcome, but it is hard to find for me.
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Actually found this one pretty good, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1733785. It's mixed with a bit of Danish though, which could actually be pretty disastrous now that I think about it. Anyway here's a brit guide to being a svennebög: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8_7yPocGPg
Re: Crazy mad idea - learning Swedish (for a brit anyway)
I will have a look.
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Caeltos wrote:svennebög
Woah, hey.
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How entertaining.
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