Patch 2.3 Balance changelog

[Dark Riku]

What if one were to scale down the skeleton for the wraithlord since it's a pretty similar bipedal that also uses one armed melee and one armed ranged attacks?

A Dreadknight is bigger than a Wraihlord, so it should be scaled up ^^

[Swift]

A Dreadknight is much bigger, which is more of a problem.

[Lost Son of Nikhel]

Just Theorycrafting here: Should receive ranged walkers (Vanilla Chaos Dread, MoT Chaos Dread, AC Dread....) the melee resistance aura BUT in return make less melee damage (from default 73.33 dps to 60 dps, for example)?

[Torpid]

No, that would be too strong. They should die in melee to HM and not take minutes to kill.

[sebi.costa]

* Baneblade health reduced from 3500 to 3250
* Baneblade turret dps increased from 26,67 to 33,3375 on all turrets
* Baneblade Demolisher cannon reduced from 300 to 225

Seems like a buff for the baneblade. Glad to see it.

[sebi.costa]

I think tech-marine is a bit to strong in team games.
Beacon reinforces everyone, very good turrets, global repair, orbs stun very good anti vehicles, marked target insane damage when combined with ur allies.
His not that awesome in 1v1 but his very strong in team games. Is there a way to nerf his team game huge potential, but not harm his 1v1?
Maybe if some of his abilities didn't affect allies it would be ok.

[Atlas]

I think tech-marine is a bit to strong in team games.
Beacon reinforces everyone, very good turrets, global repair, orbs stun very good anti vehicles, marked target insane damage when combined with ur allies.
His not that awesome in 1v1 but his very strong in team games. Is there a way to nerf his team game huge potential, but not harm his 1v1?
Maybe if some of his abilities didn't affect allies it would be ok.

Going specifically at nerfing TM for team games would probably be increasing the price of the beacon, which is already being done in the patch.

I slightly disagree with the Orbs talk since in team the TM is a lot squishier but otherwise yeah, I think he's a powerful team hero.

[Barrogh]

* Baneblade health reduced from 3500 to 3250
* Baneblade turret dps increased from 26,67 to 33,3375 on all turrets
* Baneblade Demolisher cannon reduced from 300 to 225

Seems like a buff for the baneblade. Glad to see it.

Assuming, DPS change affects main turret as well, yeah, probably.
It probably won't instagib leveled devs/havocs now. Not sure if I disagree with this though.

[Indrid]

By turrets he means the three twin-linked heavy bolters, the demolisher is the activatable shot. Seems like the mega-battle cannon remains unchanged.

[Crewfinity]

The new turret damage is suppsed to be 33,75 right?

I assumed that the 33,3375 was a typo but nobody seems to have mentioned it yet

[Wise Windu]

The new turret damage is suppsed to be 33,75 right?

I assumed that the 33,3375 was a typo but nobody seems to have mentioned it yet

Nope, 33.3375. The health damage will be 50 increased from 40. (multiply by 1.25 :p)

[Crewfinity]

Ohhhhh my bad. Haha I'm used to American numbers, I forgot that European system uses commas instead of periods to indicate decimals.

Makes much more sense, thanks for clearing that up

[Cheah18]

Ohhhhh my bad. Haha I'm used to American numbers, I forgot that European system uses commas instead of periods to indicate decimals.

Makes much more sense, thanks for clearing that up

On a side note Crew, I hope you're not considering Brits to be 'European' in this context

We tend to use 'full stops' for decimals as well :p

[Swift]

Yes, full stops, not "periods", for points. We also say pavement instead of sidewalk, just as a side note. The Baneblade change seems fairly good on the Anti infantry side, but I always thought the Lascannons could do with a small buff.

[Torpid]

Full stop is such a terrible term...

[sebi.costa]

By turrets he means the three twin-linked heavy bolters, the demolisher is the activatable shot. Seems like the mega-battle cannon remains unchanged.

Ingrid ur saying the only turrets who get an upgrade are the bolter ones?
If thats what u mean, baneblade gets nerfed.
I always prefer 2 lemanrusses instead of a baneblade. Im curious to see if the unit's gonna be worth the resources to bring out.

[sebi.costa]

I think tech-marine is a bit to strong in team games.
Beacon reinforces everyone, very good turrets, global repair, orbs stun very good anti vehicles, marked target insane damage when combined with ur allies.
His not that awesome in 1v1 but his very strong in team games. Is there a way to nerf his team game huge potential, but not harm his 1v1?
Maybe if some of his abilities didn't affect allies it would be ok.

Going specifically at nerfing TM for team games would probably be increasing the price of the beacon, which is already being done in the patch.

I slightly disagree with the Orbs talk since in team the TM is a lot squishier but otherwise yeah, I think he's a powerful team hero.

Ya but the cost increase is 10 power, that's nothing. Its a joke nerf.

[sebi.costa]

* Kaskrin Melta Gun weapon range increased from 20 to 24
* Kasrkin Grenade Launchers now knockdown targets
* Kaskrin Grenade Launchers cooldown increased from 5 to 6
* Kasrkin Weapon Expertise removed and replaced by Kasrkin Sergeant
* Kasrkin Sergeant now grants +100 courage and +0.5 capture rate to the squad

Weapons get un upgrade so no need for the weapons expertise and the sergeant gonna improve the survival of the unit. And it does get rid of the ridicules damage kasrkins have with weapon expertise and lasguns.
Its just the 100+ courage the sergeant gives them, i donno, it feels like a "take it why not" buff. Im pretty sure if they run for a suppression team their gonna get suppressed anyways. Unless they can force it off before getting suppressed. Then its all right.

[Bahamut]

By turrets he means the three twin-linked heavy bolters, the demolisher is the activatable shot. Seems like the mega-battle cannon remains unchanged.

Ingrid ur saying the only turrets who get an upgrade are the bolter ones?
If thats what u mean, baneblade gets nerfed.
I always prefer 2 lemanrusses instead of a baneblade. Im curious to see if the unit's gonna be worth the resources to bring out.

yes, only the bolter side turrets get the buff

Lascannon turrets already do 55 damage each with each shot

[sebi.costa]

Please Caeltos put back the inquisitor hat on the inquisitor model in ELITE.
She has that stupid hat in retribution, why was it removed?
I get her servodrone is an item now, but what happened to the hat?

[BaptismByLoli]

Please Caeltos put back the inquisitor hat on the inquisitor model in ELITE.
She has that stupid hat in retribution, why was it removed?
I get her servodrone is an item now, but what happened to the hat?

You'll get in when you level up your IG high enough. Don't know what level it is though.

And as a side note, this kind of request needs to be posted on Random Crap. Not here

[ChrisNihilus]

Please Caeltos put back the inquisitor hat on the inquisitor model in ELITE.
She has that stupid hat in retribution, why was it removed?
I get her servodrone is an item now, but what happened to the hat?

Somebody here likes the hat-less inquisitor, anyway.
Just level up.

[Orkfaeller]

Ya but the cost increase is 10 power, that's nothing. Its a joke nerf.

A power increase by 50% is not "nothing".
It completely throws off your Beacon time window in the early game.

[Nuclear Arbitor]

Please Caeltos put back the inquisitor hat on the inquisitor model in ELITE.
She has that stupid hat in retribution, why was it removed?
I get her servodrone is an item now, but what happened to the hat?

Somebody here likes the hat-less inquisitor, anyway.
Just level up.

dat sexy bun

[Swift]

Please Caeltos put back the inquisitor hat on the inquisitor model in ELITE.
She has that stupid hat in retribution, why was it removed?
I get her servodrone is an item now, but what happened to the hat?

Somebody here likes the hat-less inquisitor, anyway.
Just level up.

dat sexy bun

Am I missing something, because to me her hair just looks like she stumbled out of a cold shower onto a battlefield. Completely off topic.

[Tex]

* Kaskrin Melta Gun weapon range increased from 20 to 24
* Kasrkin Grenade Launchers now knockdown targets
* Kaskrin Grenade Launchers cooldown increased from 5 to 6
* Kasrkin Weapon Expertise removed and replaced by Kasrkin Sergeant
* Kasrkin Sergeant now grants +100 courage and +0.5 capture rate to the squad

Weapons get un upgrade so no need for the weapons expertise and the sergeant gonna improve the survival of the unit. And it does get rid of the ridicules damage kasrkins have with weapon expertise and lasguns.
Its just the 100+ courage the sergeant gives them, i donno, it feels like a "take it why not" buff. Im pretty sure if they run for a suppression team their gonna get suppressed anyways. Unless they can force it off before getting suppressed. Then its all right.

I would think with +100 courage, Karskins should be able to get 2 bursts off against a suppression team, maybe even more from green cover, and I wouldn't doubt that they can run forward and get far enough to throw a grenade from max range.

[lolzarz]

* Kaskrin Melta Gun weapon range increased from 20 to 24
* Kasrkin Grenade Launchers now knockdown targets
* Kaskrin Grenade Launchers cooldown increased from 5 to 6
* Kasrkin Weapon Expertise removed and replaced by Kasrkin Sergeant
* Kasrkin Sergeant now grants +100 courage and +0.5 capture rate to the squad

Weapons get un upgrade so no need for the weapons expertise and the sergeant gonna improve the survival of the unit. And it does get rid of the ridicules damage kasrkins have with weapon expertise and lasguns.
Its just the 100+ courage the sergeant gives them, i donno, it feels like a "take it why not" buff. Im pretty sure if they run for a suppression team their gonna get suppressed anyways. Unless they can force it off before getting suppressed. Then its all right.

I would think with +100 courage, Karskins should be able to get 2 bursts off against a suppression team, maybe even more from green cover, and I wouldn't doubt that they can run forward and get far enough to throw a grenade from max range.

Would the 100 additional courage allow them to fire their grenade launcher in time to disrupt the set-up team?

[Swift]

I think playtesting will be done on this grenade launcher to find out.

[Orkfaeller]

Supression mostly affects your reloard speed. So you would get out your first salvo anyway, bonus courage or not, I think.

[Aertes]

They are a T3 unit after all. Other races get Terminators, heavy tanks and those things. Allow a squad of elite guardsmen to have some fun too...