The Heretic autopistol

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The Heretic autopistol

Postby Mngwa » Mon 06 Oct, 2014 7:30 pm

This has been bothering me for a day or two so I am bringing it up now.

I saw it.

I played the Retribution campaign with Eldar again... no real reason. It was either the fourth or fifth mission, I already forgot. The one where you are first at the ice planet.

I saw a heretic standing, firing his pistol.

I didn't see him moving and firing (guardians were too efficient), but I saw him standing.


If you play the chaos campaign, do the heretics fire normally in there too?

Is there some way to bring up this animation into the multiplayer and finally make it so that those autopistol-shots don't look like they are coming out of nowhere? Or is this just a silly dream?
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Re: The Heretic autopistol

Postby viggih » Mon 06 Oct, 2014 7:46 pm

This has been discussed a few times and the animations for Heretic autopistols are buried deep in the game files. I'm sure the Tech-priests could get it working given enough time and entusiasm to do it.
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Re: The Heretic autopistol

Postby Orkfaeller » Tue 07 Oct, 2014 4:15 pm

viggih wrote:This has been discussed a few times and the animations for Heretic autopistols are buried deep in the game files. I'm sure the Tech-priests could get it working given enough time and entusiasm to do it.


I wouldnt call them burried- granted I dont have any understanding of the animation side of DoWII but I took a look at them in the model-viewer and they all seem to be there and working.

I also extracted Heretic animations from Chaos Rising ( where they're still working ) and compared them to the Retribution ones and couldnt find any differences. ( same amount of files, same file size, same names, both apear identical in the model viewer )
So I dont think the problem lies with the animations themselves but with the "code".

There might be more problems with heretics btw than just their pistols.
I noticed that Heretics with Autoguns either cant fight in melee, or dont play an melee animations either.
The Heretics with Grenade launchers dont seem affected and work fine as far as I can tell.
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Re: The Heretic autopistol

Postby Myrdal » Tue 07 Oct, 2014 6:16 pm

Orkfaeller wrote:I also extracted Heretic animations from Chaos Rising ( where they're still working ) and compared them to the Retribution ones and couldnt find any differences. ( same amount of files, same file size, same names, both apear identical in the model viewer )
So I dont think the problem lies with the animations themselves but with the "code".

Thanks for the info. With this in mind it was a easy to spot error in the autopistol weapon file where it used a melee rather than ranged animator state. Fixed :)
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Re: The Heretic autopistol

Postby ChrisNihilus » Tue 07 Oct, 2014 6:56 pm

... Fixed? Yeeeey!
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Re: The Heretic autopistol

Postby Orkfaeller » Wed 08 Oct, 2014 2:18 am

hakon wrote: Fixed :)

What? Like, seriously? Holy hell, that would be incredible.
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Re: The Heretic autopistol

Postby Caeltos » Wed 08 Oct, 2014 10:39 am

Yep, it's fixed. Now has audio and animation.
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Re: The Heretic autopistol

Postby sterling » Wed 08 Oct, 2014 1:06 pm

I wouldn't count on it. New animations are the thing that very few people know how to do, and even fewer want to spend hours upon hours making them.

Personally I'm plenty happy with this news - looks fine in model viewer so no real need to change it. Nice work hakon!
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Re: The Heretic autopistol

Postby Caeltos » Wed 08 Oct, 2014 4:58 pm

Previously, Heretics wouldn't "aim" with their autopistols and instead just shoot out of their stomach. They now actually aim with their guns and fire, included with audio.
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Re: The Heretic autopistol

Postby Mngwa » Wed 08 Oct, 2014 5:41 pm

Caeltos wrote:Previously, Heretics wouldn't "aim" with their autopistols and instead just shoot out of their stomach. They now actually aim with their guns and fire, included with audio.

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Hallelujah!


Is this something included in the next patch, then?
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Re: The Heretic autopistol

Postby Lost Son of Nikhel » Sun 12 Oct, 2014 10:46 am

Praise the Dark Gods!!! Great work, sirs.

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Re: The Heretic autopistol

Postby Superhooper01 » Thu 23 Oct, 2014 2:35 pm

Hear hear nice to see this corrected :D
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