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Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby Symetric » Tue 28 Oct, 2014 3:44 pm

Heya all there!

I will get CoH2 to play with a friend cuz he dont like the "future-aspect" of dow.

The main question i got is:
Can i use anything of my dow2 experience there? As far as i read, its more tactical but less micro. Is there anything i should know thats improtant? Or any tips for a new player? Or is it more like "yeah i got the basics and just play to get better"

thanks for answers ;)
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby Ace of Swords » Tue 28 Oct, 2014 4:16 pm

The game is infitely easier than DoW2, and way more spammy, let's say in this game you'll see a max of 3 GM and even that won't work great, in CoH2 it's quite easy to see between 3 to 6 basic infantry squads at the beginning of the game especially in 1v1s for map control, or setup team spams are very common as they only cost manpower (which is the req of coh2) and especially for soviets, which imo, are very badly designed and lame to play with or against, for the rest the basics are the same, cap cap cap, fight and retreat when you are low on hp (keep in mind units don't get reduced damage when retreating so chasing with vehicles is extremely effective for retreat killing squads), your base doesn't have an healing aura though, you'll have to purchase it later and every faction has a different tool for that, tank fights are absolutely RNG based and there will be alot to rage about that.

Also something really important are mines, if you have them avaiable spam anti tank mines, they will win you games and are ridicolously hard to remove.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby BaptismByLoli » Tue 28 Oct, 2014 10:36 pm

Ace summed it up well enough. Axis is usually easier to get your head around

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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby Symetric » Wed 29 Oct, 2014 11:48 am

Thank you for your detailed answer :)

so you basically got no heal on the beginning? If you get wounded the first engagements you screwed up...
Best strategy is to build a wall of death, especially in teamgames it seems. And it sounds like the upper hand can get a pretty hard snowball...
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby Ace of Swords » Wed 29 Oct, 2014 3:34 pm

And it sounds like the upper hand can get a pretty hard snowball...


Indeed, fortified and consolidated positions in all team games are not easy to break even with rocket artillery or off map arty, also don't get discouraged if you see a tank before you are even T3, I won and lost games where I though there was nothing to do to change the course of the battle, but back on tanks, they are made of paper, even the heavy ones, they can pretty much be taken out by infantry AV or anti tank guns alone if you spread correctly and protect them from enemy infantry, also allies will usually get out their tanks way faster than axis, so you have to be ready to face them with your infantry units/mines/AT guns as your tanks will take a few more minutes to start rolling out, but you'll get a grip of this while playing the game.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby Symetric » Wed 29 Oct, 2014 3:54 pm

These tips sound important, i will remember that. Thanks again and i go try it now and ask again if theres something i cant handle ;)
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby Black Relic » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 5:39 am

If I may The USA race that has been introduced is i think the best way to learn the game. However you do realize that they are dependent on using infantry to their fullest and using their Armor in a cautious manner and striking or reacting to your enemy's armor. AT guns an Pak guns for the US are AWESOME! And of course Air Borne :) in field AT gun call in if you can hold the line.

USA= Ability dependent, not great armor of infantry in a 1v1 fight but the BEST race (imo) if played right. I like to think of them like the Eldar of CoH2 honestly but with mines and stuff.
German (vanilla)= Epic Armor, decent artillery and MGs, infantry is also very good, but upkeep on all units is high. Infantry numbers are low.
German ("Spec OPS")= idk really. But they seem to depend on early game the set up shop. Interesting race, with high veterancy (levels).
Russians= Decent armor, artillery is epic, their flamers are epic, Molotov are epic, Guards Infantry are you best friend.


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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby BaptismByLoli » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 6:16 am

USA is very munition dependent faction early game and they lack early set-up teams. Quick MG's or Close Range fighters like Sturmpioneers could easily spell trouble for Rifleman who either need to outflank or outmanuever before they get outteched.

Their AT is the cheapest but is quite good when massed (2 or 3) and using their vet 1 ability

Jacksons are like Fire Prisms without the AI. Two or even one well micro-ed Jackson can dance for days behind a King Tiger and take him out at their leisure. Their vet 1 ability even boosts Penetration and Damage.

Easiest faction to start with IMO is Wehrmacht. Their the most flexible and have good tanks plus infantry.

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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby Symetric » Mon 03 Nov, 2014 3:33 pm

I kinda like the german "spec op" race after some testing, so i go for them^^

Someone knows any good channel for replays, preferred with light tips and explainings like indrid or maestro?
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby BaptismByLoli » Mon 03 Nov, 2014 3:41 pm

You mean Oberkommando West - OKW? Their late game is fun.

As for casters, have you tried Propaganda Casts? And I know Maestro has a few CoH2 here and there

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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby Ace of Swords » Mon 03 Nov, 2014 4:20 pm

This should be the main site you use for coh2

http://www.coh2.org/

You can upload and download replays from there like you do on gamereplays, except this site is alive.

Also it has all the news regarding coh2 and a page for all the streamers.

Here you can fine all the threads of the casters, choose whichever you prefer :p

http://www.coh2.org/forum/103/coh2-shoutcasts
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby crazyman64335 » Mon 10 Nov, 2014 4:19 am

i'd be careful about playing coh2 these days.....

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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby BaptismByLoli » Mon 10 Nov, 2014 4:39 am

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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby Swift » Mon 10 Nov, 2014 1:32 pm

GG CoH 2 automatch :x
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby Caeltos » Mon 10 Nov, 2014 7:30 pm

At least you got a box.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby Swift » Mon 10 Nov, 2014 9:43 pm

It makes defeat that little bit nicer to look at.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby Nurland » Sat 15 Nov, 2014 12:07 pm

Makes me remember my first ranked 3v3 game back in the CR days. Random team mates against Soom, NareYa and Norni iirc. :|
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 question...

Postby RagingJenni » Tue 25 Nov, 2014 8:10 am

indeed, reminds me of good memories of those first 10 placement games you needed to get a ELO placement at the start of Retribution, where you would get matched up against literally anybody.
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