How to complite my Warlock build?

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How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby egewithin » Thu 25 Jun, 2015 4:55 am

Since the Heath of Darkness changed into something I (maybe even we) wasn't expected, I don't know how to finish my Witchblade - Champions Robe build, you know the warrior build I called. Any ideas?
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Torpid » Thu 25 Jun, 2015 7:35 am

Warp throw becuz it's OP. Can use it to stop stuff from kiting from your WL. Or just anything really. Warp throw was always a no-brainer for me; it's such a ridiculous ability.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby egewithin » Thu 25 Jun, 2015 6:02 pm

Torpid wrote:Warp throw becuz it's OP. Can use it to stop stuff from kiting from your WL. Or just anything really. Warp throw was always a no-brainer for me; it's such a ridiculous ability.


But in that case, I will spend my energy shield means less tanky. I was looking for a selfish Warlock but if nothing fits, I will roll with the throw.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Vapor » Thu 25 Jun, 2015 6:47 pm

Warp throw adds enough utility that it might be worth getting even if its synergy with the robe is poor. I do a similar thing with Chaos Lord, where I buy dark halo/combiflamer in t1 and still buy armor of the inferno in t2, just because having the option to roast blobs that get near you is worth it.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Codex » Fri 26 Jun, 2015 6:17 pm

Even though I never use it, Cloak of Shadows is viable. Do as I say, not as I do. That is all.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Tex » Sat 27 Jun, 2015 1:25 pm

Cloak of shadows should be your "Go to" armor now. It has been mine for a quite a while. Combine the shroud with distort field for 100% ranged damage immunity.

The warlock no longer has a selfish build that is hugely effective against melee units unfortunately. With the change to heart of darkness, the gameplay of the warlock has shifted immensely from "psychic tank" to "warrior/support". I haven't tried it yet, but I'm assuming that enhance can be casted on the warlock himself. If this is the case, then if you combine heart of darkness with the WoK, you should be able to get +25% damage on ethereal slash which should mean (something close to) outright destruction for a squad like stormboyz. Also, with the +3 speed that enhance gives, you should be able to position yourself in the retreat path of a fleeing unit and then land a nasty grenade spike styled ethereal slash, again, with +25% damage.

So all in all, the warlock will now require more skill and strategy to play, because you can't play him like a T2 Eavy armor warboss. However, I am very excited about what appears to be a massive buff to his ability to support jump troop counterplay, and retreat path killing. When used correctly, enhance is going to absolutely punish anything that over extends.

Guardians now don't have to sacrifice damage on their grenades to get into position to throw them, and indeed, will have a 25% damage boost. That is a HUGE shift in punishment potential.
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Also, if you are going to stick with getting the champion's rope, might I recommend rounding off your build with the channeling runes? They are excellent for supporting almost any eldar squad and the only way to stop the ability is with knockback. Because the psychic shield makes the warlock immune to weapon knockback, its a pretty solid synergy between the wargears.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Lichtbringer » Sat 27 Jun, 2015 6:40 pm

Tex wrote:I haven't tried it yet, but I'm assuming that enhance can be casted on the warlock himself.


I was surprised to see that you can't cast it on the Warlock himself....
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby egewithin » Sat 27 Jun, 2015 7:03 pm

I think he has to be stedy on the grond and shouldn't move to anywhere sooooo still loosing to warpthrow. I wish we still have the selfish Warlock build. Why Channeling Runes wasn't enough for someone?
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Tex » Sun 28 Jun, 2015 1:13 pm

Well that sucks. I hope it gets changed so you can self cast it.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Asmon » Sun 28 Jun, 2015 2:43 pm

Me too. So he can finally retreat kill again.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Cheekie Monkie » Mon 29 Jun, 2015 9:36 am

Wondering if heart of darkness stacks with other speed boosts i.e. fleet global, squad fleet and even veil of time.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Myrdal » Mon 29 Jun, 2015 12:48 pm

Cheekie Monkie wrote:Wondering if heart of darkness stacks with other speed boosts i.e. fleet global, squad fleet and even veil of time.

Not with Swift movement, but the other ones do stack. Fleet of foot will not stack either but VoT and various other speed buffs will stack with Enhance.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Torpid » Mon 29 Jun, 2015 1:11 pm

hakon wrote:
Cheekie Monkie wrote:Wondering if heart of darkness stacks with other speed boosts i.e. fleet global, squad fleet and even veil of time.

Not with Swift movement, but the other ones do stack.


Since it is a 200% increase and not a flat speed increase would that be 200% of the current speed of the squad - buffs like VoT included, or would that be 200% of the squad's base speed all the time?
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Myrdal » Mon 29 Jun, 2015 1:58 pm

I was wrong, it does not stack with swift movement and neither does it stack with the fleet of foot ability.

Torpid wrote:Since it is a 200% increase and not a flat speed increase would that be 200% of the current speed of the squad - buffs like VoT included, or would that be 200% of the squad's base speed all the time?

It's a flat speed increase of +3, most speed buffs are fixed afaik. So enhance+VoT will add +5 speed to the squad. 200% speed bonus would be mental, but yes it would take the current speed into account with such a modifier.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Torpid » Mon 29 Jun, 2015 2:05 pm

hakon wrote:I was wrong, it does not stack with swift movement and neither does it stack with the fleet of foot ability.

Torpid wrote:Since it is a 200% increase and not a flat speed increase would that be 200% of the current speed of the squad - buffs like VoT included, or would that be 200% of the squad's base speed all the time?

It's a flat speed increase of +3, most speed buffs are fixed afaik. So enhance+VoT will add +5 speed to the squad. 200% speed bonus would be mental, but yes it would take the current speed into account with such a modifier.


Oh, the tooltip needs correcting then, but yeah, in hindsight and with a little bit of thought applied to it +200% speed would make no sense at all.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Myrdal » Mon 29 Jun, 2015 2:24 pm

Torpid wrote:Oh, the tooltip needs correcting then, but yeah, in hindsight and with a little bit of thought applied to it +200% speed would make no sense at all.

Well the x20 damage to suppression made no sense but it made its way in. Point is, we all have shitty days.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Torpid » Mon 29 Jun, 2015 3:09 pm

hakon wrote:
Torpid wrote:Oh, the tooltip needs correcting then, but yeah, in hindsight and with a little bit of thought applied to it +200% speed would make no sense at all.

Well the x20 damage to suppression made no sense but it made its way in. Point is, we all have shitty days.


Hahaha, yeah, fair point. I didn't mean that as a slur to you, more as a slur to me for not thinking about it at all since... Yeah. W/e :P

Thanks for all the work you've point into the mod so far Hakon Hakon :)
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby HansMoleman » Mon 29 Jun, 2015 5:47 pm

My personal Favourite right now is Merciless Witchblade + Psychic Shield + Channeling Runes. With shield + runes you can heal ur units while staying alive from focus fire AND the psychic shield will prevent your heal from canceling out due to knock back. Do this with the new Seer Council HP regen and BAM!. Cloak of shadows + distort field still gives 100% range resistance.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby egewithin » Mon 29 Jun, 2015 10:01 pm

It seems like my Warlock will never be as selfish as before. :(
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby HansMoleman » Wed 01 Jul, 2015 11:19 am

Cloak of Shadows + Distort Field = 100% Range Dmg Resistance on WL. He's the most Selfish Asshole I know lol.
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Re: How to complite my Warlock build?

Postby Atlas » Wed 01 Jul, 2015 8:05 pm

With new patch, everyone and their mother is playing WLock. We'll definitely be seeing some new things with him.

As a side note, am I the only one bothered by the misspelling of "complete" in the OP?

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