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Bad Manners

Postby Epostle » Sat 03 Oct, 2015 1:03 pm

So, I would first of all like to say hello to the community and tell the developers for this mod job well done :)

However, I would like to talk about some of the people who play this mod and about their attitudes.

After already stating that I was new in the game, there was a player who did nothing but insult and trash for the most part of the game. I was wanting to know, other than the steam overlay, is there a way of reporting these people? I mean, with a revolutionary mod such as this, that keeps the game going as well as trying to develop a strong community, one would think they would like to keep it clean and be able to prevent people like that from playing the game.

For one, it deters newer players, such as myself, from wanting to play. This isn't to state that I'm not going to play any more, but to emphasize that people such as this deserve no less than some form of warning system. Even if the player isn't new, it would still deter people from wanting to get involved with the community. In this way, people who stand and trash talk most of the game, they hinder the already dwindling community.

Another issue is that it is just bad to the community as a whole. Seeing a community that is trying to grow and become a solid foundation to attract players of all varying skill levels, one would assume that they would like to keep the community trimmed to have, though small, a solid foundation in which people can come and have fun. Being an experienced RTS player, I have met many kinds of people, and will say that so far, this community is a great community. I would hate to see this community become something like a small LoL or SC2 community with nothing but trashing.

And lastly, it's just bad manners. People who usually trash talk like that only do it just because they can against newer players. I'm not saying that most veteran players go around trash talking and stomp pubs, but what is being said is, if a person is going to play against a newer player, then they need to be willing to learn to cooperate with everyone. Courtesy such as saying "good game" or "good luck" is just a standard in most gaming today. These manners are set to establish stronger basis and wanting newer people to come and hopefully keep the game alive as long as possible.

To conclude this, I am not stating that most of the community is bad, but that I could see minor holes in it that can be patched. Keeping bad manners out of games is a huge step in establishing a stronger basis to help any game. This game is a wonderful game and has a ton of fun people to talk and play with, but it would be nice to find a system, other than Steam, to try to weed these players out and keep them out if possible.

P.S. I love this mod to death. I am also looking for somewhat newer people to play with, so whoever would like to play with me, just post on this thread.
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Re: Bad Manners

Postby BbBoS » Sat 03 Oct, 2015 1:52 pm

Unfortunately there is not much you can do about people who are BM other than kicking them out of your own game (if you are hosting) or finding a game where they are not playing in.
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Re: Bad Manners

Postby welshy » Sat 03 Oct, 2015 4:37 pm

If as a beginner you are after a place to play without the grief etc. Check out my beginners club here :)

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1927
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Re: Bad Manners

Postby Epostle » Sat 03 Oct, 2015 7:29 pm

Haha, yeah I know but it's still kind of stupid. I mean, there is no reason to be that ill-mannered.
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Re: Bad Manners

Postby Narcolepsy » Sat 03 Oct, 2015 7:31 pm

^What he said. I found a similar issue as you did when I started playing Elite, and yeah, I can sympathise with the better players if their team is being hampered by a beginner. I have felt the frustration myself (and then caught myself). We all forget what it is like to be a beginner at a certain skill.

Join NubClub! (avoid Therin though. He is a douche, and a swede.)
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Re: Bad Manners

Postby Fallowfield » Sun 04 Oct, 2015 11:16 am

Nice post dude :)

If you ever need someone to have a few games with add me on Steam. Welshy's group is a great place to start as well. I hope your future experiences are better.
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Re: Bad Manners

Postby Lews Therin » Sun 04 Oct, 2015 12:40 pm

Narcolepsy wrote:^What he said. I found a similar issue as you did when I started playing Elite, and yeah, I can sympathise with the better players if their team is being hampered by a beginner. I have felt the frustration myself (and then caught myself). We all forget what it is like to be a beginner at a certain skill.

Join NubClub! (avoid Therin though. He is a douche, and a swede.)


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Re: Bad Manners

Postby Narcolepsy » Sun 04 Oct, 2015 3:02 pm

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Re: Bad Manners

Postby Superhooper01 » Sun 04 Oct, 2015 7:30 pm

Good post sometimes people are having a bad day and may take it out on people in the game or if they are playing well and a guy loses his whole army then u can maybe expect a little hate but yeah i would like to see a lot of people read this and maybe think twice before venting tbh.
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Re: Bad Manners

Postby Paradise Lost » Sun 04 Oct, 2015 9:17 pm

What's wrong with some insults and flaming? For Khorne's sake people are such pansies these days.

Do you even Blood for the Blood God?

PS:Don't let them bring you down. If they flame on you, then flame back harder! Worked for me at least.
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Re: Bad Manners

Postby Caeltos » Mon 05 Oct, 2015 2:04 am

If someone is throwing insults, don't steep down to their level of pritimive-ape behavior, and be the better man and ignore them. Quite a few people enjoy a hostile enviroment, and a friendly community will most likely get people to stay.

Just because you think it's okay to flame doesn't mean that others will respond as well to it. It's purely ego-centric to think that it's fine. It's not okay at all, and people will appriciate a kind behavior, over an agressive, insulting ape.

Stay positive. Ignore the flamers/trolls. That goes for the forums as well, not just in-game.
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Re: Bad Manners

Postby Paradise Lost » Mon 05 Oct, 2015 5:40 am

I you couldn't tell, I was mainly roleplaying, you know. But all that 'don't go down to their level' only works on public debates or similar stuff. Most of the times it will just make people flame harder. They're like bullies, they only pick on people who they know won't fight back, at least that's my experience.
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Re: Bad Manners

Postby Adeptus Noobus » Mon 05 Oct, 2015 12:45 pm

Caeltos is right. The most effective way to stop these people in their tracks is to simply ignore them. Just don't respond. It will get tiresome for them to insult you without the gratification of a response from you :-)
It also helps to avoid them completely in-game. It means you will miss a few games but it spares you the trouble of having to deal with them in the first place. It is up to you if you can bare the flaming and enter the lobby nonetheless or if you want to avoid them. Both are equally effective, although the first option annoys them more :-)
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Re: Bad Manners

Postby Swift » Mon 05 Oct, 2015 5:03 pm

A good post on what you honestly think about the community, good to see some people can be as equally displeased about some of the members as I.

Kind of complements what I wrote a few months back, but regarding the forum: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1925

And no I won't keep posting that all over I'm not an egocentric. Well, maybe in my signature.
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Re: Bad Manners

Postby Epostle » Thu 22 Oct, 2015 5:10 pm

I want to thank everyone for their replies and how they handled the thread. Since then I've gotten a lot more experienced at the game and am now finding more matches and even helping super noobs with strategies and what-not. I just didn't want people to think the thread I posted was a "complaint" thread more than an analysis thread. It was kind of hard to distinguish due to me being in a somewhat bad mood about it.

I've been working on in game manners and what not and have been improving on my manners as well, though sometimes I do get frustrated. Basically I just try to set the mood by saying "gg gl hf" in the beginning of all my games just because that's how you establish manners and it should just be a code to go by when beginning a game.

Also again, if there are any more comments, please by all means post them up, and hopefully we'll get some more people to learn just basic good manners and learn to negate bad manners.

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