Is Storm Shield too good in tier 1?

[bibotot]

Force Commander charges straight into HMG team. Ties them up. Takes only 50% HP damage during the charge. Still has 50% energy left. And this buff applies to anyone close to him.

Honestly, who would buy the Iron Halo in tier 1 anymore? This wargear is ridiculous. It counters all HMG teams, Banshees and Raptors.

[Asmon]

Or perhaps it doesn't? Who knows...

[Oddnerd]

I havent found it OP in my experience as an IG main. It also slows them down, which can be exploited if your micro is ok.

One of the worst designs in this game is the 1-man-army offensive commander, so any item like a stormshield that makes them less 1-dimensional is great and I wouldn't want to discourage its use by nerfing it.

[Aguxyz]

Storm Shield is fine just focus fire FC

[Adeptus Noobus]

Ahem, it also means he is slower, more susceptible to disruption (e.g Spotters) and he does not have enough energy for his most annoying ability: battle cry. That means no more special attacks on your hero or units and no more stacking damage buff with each attack he does. That is quite significant if you ask me.

[DandyFrontline]

Hey, i remember the same post few months ago.

[Adeptus Noobus]

Hey, i remember the same post few months ago.

And also that. This has been discussed at length before and the Storm Shield was nerfed afterwards.

[Atlas]

Storm Shield is fine just focus fire FC

Qft.

The halo is super good vs ig actually. Artificer and halo vs ig will let fc tank all day , gain tons of xp and absolutely forces a setup team in response.
I personally think SM vs IG is a little IG favored in general, but definitely playable.

More levels earlier equals more devastating TH later. Yes plz.

[Superhooper01]

Me and cornholio have also made a post of this btw.

[saltychipmunk]

Storm Shield is fine just focus fire FC

Doesnt the fc also get really tanky with the storm sheild?

he gets an extra 100 hp and another 20% passive ranged damage resistance , you throw in the artificer armor and you are looking at a 1120 hp commander with decent hp regen as well before even considering the active ability defend.

add in the 50% ranged damage reduction and all he need do to become ridiculously hard to kill is move h from cover to cover or even just have him behind his army a decent bit.


Id think a better method to deal with him is just make him waste his energy. even with artificer he doesnt have an endless energy pool and if you keep forcing him to toggle the sheild (by running out of range) he will burn through the energy even faster.

though if you end up defending your gen farm from a full energy ss fc you better start tying shit up or the inevitable flame tac is going to melt it while laughing at your set up teams and ranged blobs.

[Aguxyz]

Storm Shield is fine just focus fire FC

Doesnt the fc also get really tanky with the storm sheild?

he gets an extra 100 hp and another 20% passive ranged damage resistance , you throw in the artificer armor and you are looking at a 1120 hp commander with decent hp regen as well before even considering the active ability defend.

add in the 50% ranged damage reduction and all he need do to become ridiculously hard to kill is move h from cover to cover or even just have him behind his army a decent bit.


Id think a better method to deal with him is just make him waste his energy. even with artificer he doesnt have an endless energy pool and if you keep forcing him to toggle the sheild (by running out of range) he will burn through the energy even faster.

though if you end up defending your gen farm from a full energy ss fc you better start tying shit up or the inevitable flame tac is going to melt it while laughing at your set up teams and ranged blobs.

Everyone still takes full melee dmg, support shees while they do all the work all you'll be fine

[egewithin]

Everyone still takes full melee dmg, support shees while they do all the work all you'll be fine

Wow! I didn't realize that before, thanks a lot!

[Dullahan]

I've been saying it was awesome for YEARS. If you micro the defend ability to only be active during the burst from the heavy bolter you barely lose any energy/speed and can charge the suppression team easily.

It's not "too good" though, it's just strong at what it does.

[Adeptus Noobus]

You can still toggle it on and off but it is ill advised as the activation costs 10 power now.

[Dullahan]

You can still toggle it on and off but it is ill advised as the activation costs 10 power now.

Power as in the resource? Or energy?

If energy:
That's a smart change, glad to see. Still worth toggling it I think, but atleast it's not free. 30 energy to run up quickly on it is about the same as if you walked up on it.

if power:
lol.

[Dark Riku]

It's indeed energy as you assumed

[Adeptus Noobus]

It's indeed energy as you assumed

Yeah, I meant energy ofc. XD

[egewithin]

Thankfully it is energy.

[CSM Emperor]

Force Commander charges straight into HMG team. Ties them up. Takes only 50% HP damage during the charge. Still has 50% energy left. And this buff applies to anyone close to him.

Honestly, who would buy the Iron Halo in tier 1 anymore? This wargear is ridiculous. It counters all HMG teams, Banshees and Raptors.

i never had trouble dealing with FC who used shield.

[Black Relic]

That is because if you play Chaos you should have a hard time. but races like eldar will due to a lot of their damage t1 stems from guardians and shees. And shees vs SM is a bit difficult when facing it head on. But that is way you flank SM as much as possible.

Chaos has a ton of melee in t1 and Heretics can deal with him pretty well since if he uses battle cry there goes his energy and instantly suppressed. Now you can just back you heretics up and focus fire him. Reduce your bleed and force off the FC. If he doesn't then you keep smacking him in melee, that's the simple explanation.

[CSM Emperor]

That is because if you play Chaos you should have a hard time. but races like eldar will due to a lot of their damage t1 stems from guardians and shees. And shees vs SM is a bit difficult when facing it head on. But that is way you flank SM as much as possible.

Chaos has a ton of melee in t1 and Heretics can deal with him pretty well since if he uses battle cry there goes his energy and instantly suppressed. Now you can just back you heretics up and focus fire him. Reduce your bleed and force off the FC. If he doesn't then you keep smacking him in melee, that's the simple explanation.

you are imagining things, i play totally different.

[Black Relic]

Then you should explain and not make one liners in a balance section.

[Tranca]

I wanna put in one of those #rekt gifs, because it would be funny as hell.

Can someone do that? I'm scared of trying and looking bad.

This one is funny:

[Atlas]

Let's keep this on topic, shall we?