Patch 2.5 (WIP)

[Forestradio]

ven dread is 300 red atm while the notes say that it's going from 350 red to 350 red, is that just a typo?

[MaxPower]

Yes Forest, Caeltos mentioned as much to me, because I did ask him the same question some time ago

[CSM Emperor]

is 2.5 to be released on 40k AD ?

[Caeltos]

No. It'll be released when it's ready.

[Nerdhero]

Do dire avengers really need that cost reduction? If they are gonna be buffed, i think improving their stats would be better, because eldar needs more raw power in tier 1 rather than less cost, as they were never meant to be good at attrition to begin with, and getting another squad isn't worth the req most of the time.

[Lost Son of Nikhel]

It was really necessary the Dirge Caster need? It already needs the target to be close to the LRP and the LRP itself isn't as tough as other LR variants.

[Aetherion]

* Dirge Caster range effect radius reduced from 40 to 32

Could we get a range indication (like heretic worship) on the ability when your mouse hovers over the ability?

And if there are any updates...... share plz?

[egewithin]

Btw, now GK Termies can not charge but can teleport into fight passively just like Bloodletters right? Sooo, what is the range of that, cooldown and stuff? Are they ready first of all?

[CSM Emperor]

Btw, now GK Termies can not charge but can teleport into fight passively just like Bloodletters right? Sooo, what is the range of that, cooldown and stuff? Are they ready first of all?

GK termins passively teleport like Bloodletters ?????????? They are superheavy infantry and get free teleport like the weak armored Bloodletters ?????????????LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[CSM Emperor]

CL cant teleport and has less HP than FC with terminator armour who can also teleport so i suggest an increase on CL ARMOR MODIFIER NOT HP is needed.

[DandyFrontline]

CL cant teleport and has less HP than FC with terminator armour who can also teleport so i suggest an increase on CL ARMOR MODIFIER NOT HP is needed.

I heard FC terminator armor costs 70 energy, need t3, make FC lvl 1 without leveling possibility and remove all previous upgrades, so i dont really get why you compare it to CL

[Cyris]

FWIW, I think the changing from charge to teleport will be a nerf to GK terminaters (depending on specific values of range, cooldown, time before able to attack etc). It will almost absolutely reduce their retreat killng potential, which is pretty high right now (since they speed 5 with a melee charge), especially with the slower turn speeds.

[Ace of Swords]

CL cant teleport and has less HP than FC with terminator armour who can also teleport so i suggest an increase on CL ARMOR MODIFIER NOT HP is needed.

I heard FC terminator armor costs 70 energy, need t3, make FC lvl 1 without leveling possibility and remove all previous upgrades, so i dont really get why you compare it to CL

https://dawnofwar.info/codex.php?page=e ... _commander

100 power, not 70, it's also pretty meh overall, not worth it at all unless your fc has been dead the whole game and is level 1.

[CSM Emperor]

KCSM with aspiring get an ability where they deal aoe damage for the duration of the ability. TCSM with aspiring get an ability which increases their armour amount for the duration of ability. If there was an aspiring champion to the CSM squad before they get the mark the new ability depending on the mark will reset in cooldown.

[CSM Emperor]

FWIW, I think the changing from charge to teleport will be a nerf to GK terminaters (depending on specific values of range, cooldown, time before able to attack etc). It will almost absolutely reduce their retreat killng potential, which is pretty high right now (since they speed 5 with a melee charge), especially with the slower turn speeds.

that also makes sense.

[Caeltos]

KCSM with aspiring get an ability where they deal aoe damage for the duration of the ability. TCSM with aspiring get an ability which increases their armour amount for the duration of ability. If there was an aspiring champion to the CSM squad before they get the mark the new ability depending on the mark will reset in cooldown.

What are you talking about?

[Crewfinity]

KCSM with aspiring get an ability where they deal aoe damage for the duration of the ability. TCSM with aspiring get an ability which increases their armour amount for the duration of ability. If there was an aspiring champion to the CSM squad before they get the mark the new ability depending on the mark will reset in cooldown.

What are you talking about?

Assuming those are his requests for changes next patch....

Those would be terrible changes and would make both marked CSM squads OP as hell.

i'm detecting a bit of chaos bias in your balance assessments, CSM Emperor

[CSM Emperor]

Assuming those are his requests for changes next patch....

Those would be terrible changes and would make both marked CSM squads OP as hell.

i'm detecting a bit of chaos bias in your balance assessments, CSM Emperor

[Cheekie Monkie]

I suggest we have a friendly pledge system to donate to the development team for when patch hits. You know, incentives and stuff (100% NOT BRIBES)

In which case, I'd like to pledge £20 for when the patch is released for the public.

[Deuce Bigalow]

If we replace Operatives shotguns with Scout shotguns, would that implement the damage-fall-off-as-range-increases attribute?

If so, I propose that we replace operatives shotguns with scout shotguns.

Edit: I am talking about their weapon type. And I forgot to justify why I proposed this. I think that the minor nerfs to Operatives outlined in the 2.5 notes are not enough to balance them. I know the patch hasn't landed yet, but In my view their price/performance ratio will still be too high. A damage fall-off would at the very least encourage micro and reward for it.

[CSM Emperor]

I suggest we have a friendly pledge system to donate to the development team for when patch hits. You know, incentives and stuff (100% NOT BRIBES)

In which case, I'd like to pledge £20 for when the patch is released for the public.

there is a donate system in the site fyi

[egewithin]

Well, hero showing while selecting heroes future is now unkowen I think, sooo can we get Slaaneshi Champion in this patch insted of waiting that future?

[CSM Emperor]

Well, hero showing while selecting heroes future is now unkowen I think, sooo can we get Slaaneshi Champion in this patch insted of waiting that future?

that would be great but hard to happen all of a sudden

[Tranca]

Question:

Is this mod balanced around a certain game mode, like 1v1? Or, does it take into account 3v3s and 2v2s, as well?

[Aguxyz]

Question:

Is this mod balanced around a certain game mode, like 1v1? Or, does it take into account 3v3s and 2v2s, as well?

1v1

[Caeltos]

It attempts to balance around all game modes to the best of it's abilities.

[BloatedChamp]

* Replaced Strike Squad Psycanon with a Psilencer
* Psilencer is an effective weapon against infantry, heavy infantry and commanders

Awesome!! Can can't wait to see this in action.

[Tranca]

Question:

Is this mod balanced around a certain game mode, like 1v1? Or, does it take into account 3v3s and 2v2s, as well?

1v1

It attempts to balance around all game modes to the best of it's abilities.

umm... So, it mainly caters to 1v1? :O

[Caeltos]

Question:

Is this mod balanced around a certain game mode, like 1v1? Or, does it take into account 3v3s and 2v2s, as well?

1v1

It attempts to balance around all game modes to the best of it's abilities.

umm... So, it mainly caters to 1v1? :O

No, it tries to cater to all game modes.

[Cheekie Monkie]

Whilst I understand the need to balance across all game modes, I do still have that preconception that the 1v1 mode is the 'first among equals' given the history of the mod. For example, if there was a glaring balance error in 1v1 which is completely absent in 3v3, would you make changes for the sake of 1v1 even if it skewed the balance in 3v3 or vice versa?