Eldar Strategy: The relative poverty of the arrogant

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Re: Eldar Strategy: The relative poverty of the arrogant

Postby Cyris » Thu 29 Oct, 2015 3:09 pm

Thanks so much for the followup Phate! I hope I can get a chance to try it out some time. I really like it when a build leaves you with 0 req often, it makes it feel really efficient.
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Re: Eldar Strategy: The relative poverty of the arrogant

Postby Laplace's Demon » Sat 20 Feb, 2016 5:36 am

Brothers and Sisters of light and song,

Our prayers have been answered! Long have we toiled under accusations of L2P and the dark denigration of 'gitgud', and many of our kin have already fallen to the temptations of other, more coherent factions, choosing to abandon the Craftworld and join their ranks.

But at long last, our salvation may be at hand! The Gods have turned their merciful attentions to our plight, and see what their eyes have revealed!

Tex wrote: 1) Warlock has been made into a spell caster, sort of. He has certainly lost his ability to brawl past T1, and he is now stuck being rather ineffectual in T2 and onwards. I like that he is getting some changes, but his energy costs and performance are just not jiving. Instead of taking a step backward, lets take a step forward and actually make him do the spell casting thing well. I don't think this will overlap with the FS because the spells are actually quite different.
A couple things I think could be done would be to allow warp throw to be casted without vision, and to increase it's cast range slightly. Also, I would love to see a change made to immolate so that either a) the aoe is made a tiny bit larger or b) units that walk out of immolate have a small burn damage DoT. A last suggestion which might be unpopular, is that I think it is time to look at giving a little bit of power back to the MWB. It is no longer the ultra dominant weapon that it was before (because the WL cant tank past T1). I don't want to go back to perma knockback and w/e. I just want to see the warlock get some jam back.


Atlas wrote:Fix other really 1 sided matchups like ig vs eldar and gk vs sm and we've got the Chosen Patch :O


Tex wrote:Banshee exarch could use a slight price reduction. By sheer weight of total deaths, I think 80-20 is justified.


Cyris wrote:I recently finished my "tour" with IG and have moved onto Eldar. I've talked about in other threads why I'm concerned with DA price reduction (I think the unit is very potent already). The real concern I have is shees though. I never mained Eldar while shees had their old retreat killing skills, but my goodness does the current unit unimpress me. The urgency players felt to drive off the shees is greatly diminished, reducing their ability to draw priority fire and abilities away from other squads. Their ability to 1v1 other melee squads has reduced as well. Melee fights often hinge on players playing the retreat chicken game - attempting to judge the point where retreat would spell doom, and deciding to stay or go before then. Shees retreat killing aptitude used to force this very early, allowing them to preform above their raw stats.

I am not experienced enough with Eldar yet to have a strong belief in this. Maybe the cost reduction and micro tricks with leap were enough, and I need to learn to use them better (leap into shout works well for quick initiations). Maybe I need to focus on more commander/global support. I just can't shake the feeling that fear of toxic aspects of the units past (and toxic they were) has relegated it to a lackluster state. I don't even have strong feelings on what I'd like to see changed, just that I hope some attention is being paid on them. Exarch cost reduction could be a start, but not relevant till T2. DA cost reduction is also going to compound this.


Caeltos wrote:Warlock improvements - Check


And more besides! Dark reaper fixes, Wraithguard heal-on-the-move (?), DA cost reduction (?)

Take heart my Eldar brothers and sisters. No matter how long and dark the night, the sun always crests, and we may yet be made whole.

For the Craftworld
Atlas

Re: Eldar Strategy: The relative poverty of the arrogant

Postby Atlas » Sat 20 Feb, 2016 3:25 pm

It's kinda funny, because when I mentioned IG vs Eldar being an imba matchup, I meant for IG :P Eldar can roll IG like no tomorrow.

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