Noise Marines

[CSM Emperor]

Noise marines shouldnt have a delay, if it is their flamer damage can be decreased while its range increased. They are specialist infantry, used for SPECIFIC purposes, disable infantry+block enemy advance with cacophony. In t2 they can be artilery but then the unit changes and dont ue the flamer any more. Adding a delay makes them useless as they arent good at their special task they are to be.

[Metal C0Mmander]

What do you mean by delay?

[Caeltos]

These threads just won't end will they?

[Nurland]

The delay was added to NM since even most Chaos mains felt like they overperformed.

[egewithin]

1,5 second delay is not a big issue to be honest. Not making them useless for the owner and not making them safe target for the enemy. Since their flamer hurts real good ( even my tacs are suffering a lot ) they needed a nerf. I was suprized and impressed for the way Caeltos nerfed them. It is totally okay and everyone is happy. I couldn' make it better to be honest.


I was wondering only one thing for the all the time. Why can't plastmaster knockback Terminators? Not saying it is needed but I am missing it in big 3v3 Calderis matches. Is it something with balance or just forgatten? Can someone explain it to me?

[Nurland]

Well Pdevs are the only ability kb artillery squad (d-cans have it on singularity i suppose).

So a quick comparison between Pdevs and NM:

Assblasters are a cheap upgrade to a T1 squad (though upgrade + base price makes them more expensive), have more hp and arguably more disruption and a faster projectile.

Pdevs have more dps, better AoE, better range and ability kb.

Both have their perks so I would imagine NM having weapon kb is a trait.

[The_Convertant]

Well Pdevs are the only ability kb artillery squad (d-cans have it on singularity i suppose).

So a quick comparison between Pdevs and NM:

Assblasters are a cheap upgrade to a T1 squad (though upgrade + base price makes them more expensive), have more hp and arguably more disruption and a faster projectile.

Pdevs have more dps, better AoE, better range and ability kb.

Both have their perks so I would imagine NM having weapon kb is a trait.

NOICE MEHREEN's airblaster's or whatever's projectile also kb everything in its path during its flight. Could be crazy if it does ability kb.

[egewithin]

NOICE MEHREEN's airblaster's or whatever's projectile...

It is basicially a bass cannon. Which is a crazy tool for a strategy game.

[Metal C0Mmander]

NOICE MEHREEN's airblaster's or whatever's projectile...

It is basicially a bass cannon. Which is a crazy tool for a strategy game.

Oh yeah cause the rest of the warhammer unoverse is so god damm restrained.

[CSM Emperor]

These threads just won't end will they?

lol XD

What do you mean by delay?

shouldnt delay disabling infantry, thus if it is a nerf it should be on the damage their deal.

[Nurland]

NOICE MEHREEN's airblaster's or whatever's projectile also kb everything in its path during its flight. Could be crazy if it does ability kb.

That is what I was going for with the better disruption for NM. It is a 2-edged sword but generally very useful.

[Carnevour]

Actually feel that NMs are insanely fuckin good in Elite even with the 1.5 since im guessing they fire off a whole volley even if the enemy goes out of range?