Killing Weirdboy as IG

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Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby Oddnerd » Sun 31 Jul, 2016 9:54 pm

Hi all,

My only reliable way to kill a Weirdboy as IG right now is to play LC, get 2-3 STs, and basically burst him down to <300hp and finish him off with inspire terror.

Do IG players have other ways of actually killing this fucker reliably?
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby Torpid » Mon 01 Aug, 2016 12:02 am

Hammer of the witches -> Sentinel stomp -> Catachan explosive shot -> Catachan ol' reliable -> stormtrooper frag nade -> kasrkin frag nade -> bane wolf chem bomb + hellfury strike -> rocket run tends to kill a weirdboy, if it doesn't just follow up with a bionic eye executed ogryn bone 'ead charge.

Alternatively just use 'crippling volley' and a manticore barrage on him.

The baneblade tends to do quite well too.
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby Crewfinity » Mon 01 Aug, 2016 12:28 am

Or u can just play me and use pretty much anything.

I lose track of that crazy motherfucker like nobody's business -___-


Honestly getting the kill is pretty tough vs a good opponent, you should really just prioritize bursting him down and forcing him off before he can fuck u up with vomit or stomp. Getting a lucky kill is gravy (and usually only happens with stormtroopers burst or infiltrated ogryns) and you shouldn't make that your objective. Like trying to kill a sentinel in t1, most of the time you'll just waste resources trying to finish him off when forcing him off the field will usually win u the engagement.
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby Oddnerd » Mon 01 Aug, 2016 12:40 am

Crewfinity wrote:Like trying to kill a sentinel in t1...


If that sentinel happened to be a walking plasma cannon with AOE damage and control spells. Kinda hard to not want to kill it.
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby Ace of Swords » Mon 01 Aug, 2016 1:01 am

Using spotter's barrage to KB the WB towards your army works as well, then you just focus fire with everything you have and with the stuff torpid listed.
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby Torpid » Mon 01 Aug, 2016 2:55 am

On a serious note my jocular initial post was like that because really there is no instance wherein you should ever be able to kill a weirdboy EXCEPT infiltrated ogryns or bionic eye ogryns. But let's be real, you're vsing a weirdboy so is that really a good idea? You would need to focus fire him down so he can't risk using a vomit to stun the ogryns before retreating due to focus fire killing him and therefore he retreats without vomiting and the ogryns kill him in retreat with melee...

You can force him off though with continuous focus fire, obviously, primarily stormtroopers, autocannon heavy weapon teams (just because of the range) and that's pretty much all you can do. The LG with his sniper has a much easier time.

If you can catch him with an artillery shell behind his ass then that's nice but a good webo will just warpath or over 'dere away unless it's a huge engagement.
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby egewithin » Mon 01 Aug, 2016 2:57 pm

Torpid wrote:The baneblade tends to do quite well too.


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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby Toilailee » Mon 01 Aug, 2016 8:20 pm

Two 12 man GM squads with LG sniper + refrator/flak jacket/stabilizers and a chim in the background. His health will wear out and he'll have to retreat sooner or later, you won't. :twisted:

And that doesn't just work for weirdboy, it was kinda my solution to everything. :oops:
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby Torpid » Mon 01 Aug, 2016 10:37 pm

Toilailee wrote:Two 12 man GM squads with LG sniper + refrator/flak jacket/stabilizers and a chim in the background. His health will wear out and he'll have to retreat sooner or later, you won't. :twisted:

And that doesn't just work for weirdboy, it was kinda my solution to everything. :oops:


You forgot nobody plays LG anymore. Because LG is 'bad'.
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby _4ut_ » Wed 03 Aug, 2016 7:11 pm

Torpid wrote:You forgot nobody plays LG anymore. Because LG is 'bad'.

Why?
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby Torpid » Wed 03 Aug, 2016 8:17 pm

_4ut_ wrote:
Torpid wrote:You forgot nobody plays LG anymore. Because LG is 'bad'.

Why?


I was making a sorrowful comment.

It's true that nobody plays LG but not because he is bad in anyway, yet a lot of people seem to think it!

Not entirely sure why. The fact is that he is worse vs jump troops and T2 melee but vs the ranged-dominant-meta he's so much better than other heroes. He's undervalued imo.
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby Oddnerd » Wed 03 Aug, 2016 11:32 pm

I used to not play him at all, but since the Eldar reached unheard of levels of obnoxiousness post-2.5.0, I've picked him up and found LG-based ranged superiority builds amazing against both Eldar spam and other races. Maybe his abilities don't quite reach the level of power and synergy that a LC in T3 has, but overall he is a commander who remains strong in all tiers.
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby _4ut_ » Fri 05 Aug, 2016 7:31 am

Oddnerd wrote:I used to not play him at all, but since the Eldar reached unheard of levels of obnoxiousness post-2.5.0, I've picked him up and found LG-based ranged superiority builds amazing against both Eldar spam and other races. Maybe his abilities don't quite reach the level of power and synergy that a LC in T3 has, but overall he is a commander who remains strong in all tiers.

LG good against Eldar. But in T3 I really haw some problem. Counter consil its hard to me, his 15% range damage resist, feels like 50% some times.
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby _4ut_ » Fri 05 Aug, 2016 7:36 am

Torpid wrote:
_4ut_ wrote:
Torpid wrote:You forgot nobody plays LG anymore. Because LG is 'bad'.

Why?

. The fact is that he is worse vs jump troops and T2 melee but vs the ranged-dominant-meta he's so much better than other heroes. He's undervalued imo.

Yep. I dominated Eldar whole match. 3 GM, himera, autocanon, lascanon, hwt (yes I like setup teams). But in t3 consil... 250vs1 point and loose.
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby Torpid » Fri 05 Aug, 2016 3:35 pm

_4ut_ wrote:Yep. I dominated Eldar whole match. 3 GM, himera, autocanon, lascanon, hwt (yes I like setup teams). But in t3 consil... 250vs1 point and loose.


Did he have an autarch too or something? How did the seers deal with the suppression HWT? Also, just get a leman. Your lascannon teams w/ shield have same range as the prism so are pretty awesome vs it since they can't be knocked over too like most lascannons. And the leman mauls seers.
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Re: Killing Weirdboy as IG

Postby _4ut_ » Fri 05 Aug, 2016 7:35 pm

Torpid wrote:
_4ut_ wrote:Yep. I dominated Eldar whole match. 3 GM, himera, autocanon, lascanon, hwt (yes I like setup teams). But in t3 consil... 250vs1 point and loose.


Did he have an autarch too or something? How did the seers deal with the suppression HWT? Also, just get a leman. Your lascannon teams w/ shield have same range as the prism so are pretty awesome vs it since they can't be knocked over too like most lascannons. And the leman mauls seers.

Yes, autarh dropt on the HWT. Kill it but deth to. In the end 2GM, autocanon, lascanon vs DA, dragons, consil and farser. Yes, I dropt leman but its not helps to much.
Yes, I panict in end, loos leman to. And if I use nyke well it will isle win, but I can't.
But on the end of all it, I like to now how correct to counter it fkn counsil. Maby rebuld HWT will be beater choose then whait a leman...

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