T3 Termas

[sk4zi]

@riku

i ment, if they´re talking about termas + Swarmlord you cant say that is unbalanced to lets say clensing flame and and and

i mean if there is a SL there can also be a LR and then its not that broken anymore.

i also think its too much with that tyra Leaders. i mean hey, i startet this thread.

but its not op because of the swarmlord.
you also can reinforce genstealers from it. its the same then. your terms would loose.
but you also can reinfoce terminators at a land raider and then the terms surely win.
maybe not until the tyra player is running out of req but they still in the better position.

you also cant kill Orks whit all that mentioned stuff when a wartruck is around, nor guardsmen with chimera.


really i dont wanna say that termas ok, but you cant say the reinforce of a swarmlord belongs to this problem.
its a different one.

edit: ment hormas

[HandSome SoddiNg]

@riku

i ment, if they´re talking about termas + Swarmlord you cant say that is unbalanced to lets say clensing flame and and and

i mean if there is a SL there can also be a LR and then its not that broken anymore.

i also think its too much with that tyra Leaders. i mean hey, i startet this thread.

but its not op because of the swarmlord.
you also can reinforce genstealers from it. its the same then. your terms would loose.
but you also can reinfoce terminators at a land raider and then the terms surely win.
maybe not until the tyra player is running out of req but they still in the better position.

you also cant kill Orks whit all that mentioned stuff when a wartruck is around, nor guardsmen with chimera.


really i dont wanna say that termas ok, but you cant say the reinforce of a swarmlord belongs to this problem.
its a different one.

edit: ment hormas

What if People spammed like 3- 4 Homoguants and There's SL supporting the Meele blob , Tha'ts like Outrageously tough to fight as SM/GK , Already genestealers are very Deadly under Meele synapse

[Bahamut]

i'd actually say that SM would have the easiest time dealing with that. Thunder hammer if you got a FC, grenades, LRR, shotguns, whirlwind, pdev, claw terminators, flamer terminators, melee dreadnoughts. t3 warrior seagents would not be a changing factor on that scenario. Also GK's roster is pretty much all melee capable units

[Kvek]

hread.

but its not op because of the swarmlord.
you also can reinforce genstealers from it. its the same then. your terms would loose.
but you also can reinfoce terminators at a land raider and then the terms surely win.
maybe not until the tyra player is running out of req but they still in the better position.

Reinforcing termies from a lr when in an engagment ? that would bleed you like fuck, and it also takes a lot of time till they reinforce

[Torpid]

It's OP due to the economy of the nids. The gaunts are still rather duralbe (although, it's way better now and not quite as OP and frankly I aren't sure it's op anymore), and they reinforce super cheap and super fast considering their hp.

[Lulgrim]

Reinforcing termies from a lr when in an engagment ? that would bleed you like fuck, and it also takes a lot of time till they reinforce

Yeah Termies take 15 seconds to reinforce, you could just lose the squad before getting a new model...

[Codex]

Couldn't you just garrison them in the Land Raider, ungarrison them after 15 seconds and the model instantly reinforces? Admittedly losing their dps during that period, but it doesn't have to be the full 15 seconds.

[Ace of Swords]

Couldn't you just garrison them in the Land Raider, ungarrison them after 15 seconds and the model instantly reinforces? Admittedly losing their dps during that period, but it doesn't have to be the full 15 seconds.

I would say, once you are in a position where that happens the engagment and most likely the LR is lost.

[Nuclear Arbitor]

i was under the impression that the garrison will pause the reinforce but i've never actually tested it. you can reinforce while in buildings though iirc. you just have to start the reinforce before entering.

[Bahamut]

what happens is the same as if you moved a squad out of base that was reinforcing in base too soon. It keeps building the unit but wont spawn until u go back to base / leave the transport

[sk4zi]

Reinforcing termies from a lr when in an engagment ? that would bleed you like fuck, and it also takes a lot of time till they reinforce

Yeah Termies take 15 seconds to reinforce, you could just lose the squad before getting a new model...

just ment the swarm lord makes a huge difference in that point.
it just needs to be tewaked without any broodnest, swarmlord or Pheromone cloud

[ThongSong]

yeah a linebreaker unit that noms everything shouldn't be able to reinforce.

that's like a GUO or an avatar being able to reinforce.

heck, it would make more sense if the Doom reinforced.

[Dark Riku]

i was under the impression that the garrison will pause the reinforce but i've never actually tested it. you can reinforce while in buildings though iirc. you just have to start the reinforce before entering.

That seems to be a trend of you and many other people. Debating on hunches and vague memories while not knowing the actual facts. Please stop that!