Dark Riku wrote:You said "size, ect" ... And no, the hellbrute is the same size as a dreadnought because it is one!
More like was one, otherwise we wouldn't need a different name for the same unit.
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Wed 11 Feb, 2015 2:54 am
by Dark Riku
No, it's still a dreadnought. --> http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Helbrute That's like saying a poodle isn't a dog because otherwise we wouldn't have named it a poodle.
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Wed 11 Feb, 2015 4:54 am
by MaxPower
Y would you give a dreadnought a new name then, if it is still a dreadnought? Chaos dreadnoughts were always heavily influenced by the warp and we didn't call em hellbrutes back then.
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Wed 11 Feb, 2015 7:36 am
by Indrid
GW just wanted to differentiate them more from SM stuff in TT I imagine. So the Hellbrute replaced the Chaos Dread in the codex, but Chaos Dreads still exist in the lore so as to not muck up old novels etc.
I dunno why Ven compares them to Centurions in any way - they are just "more grimdark" Chaos Dreads so that GW could give them a bunch of daemon-y rules in the TT.
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Wed 11 Feb, 2015 1:53 pm
by Ven
i dont know about you but this thing (helbrute) looks like a centurion and a dreadnought had a baby to me
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Wed 11 Feb, 2015 2:23 pm
by Dark Riku
MaxPower wrote:Y would you give a dreadnought a new name then, if it is still a dreadnought? Chaos dreadnoughts were always heavily influenced by the warp and we didn't call em hellbrutes back then.
Max, What you are saying makes no sense. Why would you call sternguard sternguard if they are still Space Marines? Because it's divided further! All hellbrutes are dreadnought not all dreadnoughts are hellbrutes.
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Wed 11 Feb, 2015 5:09 pm
by Swift
Ven wrote:i dont know about you but this thing (helbrute) looks like a centurion and a dreadnought had a baby to me
I've got the models and the Helbrute is actually slightly larger than a Dreadnought. It still does the same things though.
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Wed 18 Feb, 2015 6:31 pm
by ChrisNihilus
Here, the creator of the HelBrute himself.
I agree with OP, anyway.
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Wed 18 Feb, 2015 9:17 pm
by Sturnn
So maybe lets also introduce SM Centurions into the game?
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Wed 18 Feb, 2015 10:08 pm
by Ven
Sturnn wrote:So maybe lets also introduce SM Centurions into the game?
this isn't the thread for that.
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Thu 19 Feb, 2015 9:26 am
by Sturnn
Yep, please delete it.
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Fri 20 Mar, 2015 7:15 pm
by viggih
Just thought of another one. Catachan Devils ==> Catachan Jungle Fighters. Bit more generic since the Devils are a specific regiment.
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Fri 20 Mar, 2015 10:12 pm
by Swift
viggih wrote:Just thought of another one. Catachan Devils ==> Catachan Jungle Fighters. Bit more generic since the Devils are a specific regiment.
Actually the point is they are real Catachan Devils, not any old Catachans. They are hardened veterans, plus it would make the Elite scheme seem redundant.
Re: Proposed name changes to x unit(s)
Posted: Sat 21 Mar, 2015 8:22 pm
by viggih
Swiftsabre wrote:
viggih wrote:Just thought of another one. Catachan Devils ==> Catachan Jungle Fighters. Bit more generic since the Devils are a specific regiment.
Actually the point is they are real Catachan Devils, not any old Catachans. They are hardened veterans, plus it would make the Elite scheme seem redundant.
Never mind. Just checked Lexicanum. Guess that's my thought for the day.
