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Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Thu 02 Jan, 2014 3:38 am
by ThongSong
yo dwag I heard you like power armour so I put power armour on your power armour so you can power armour while you power armour?

Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Thu 02 Jan, 2014 8:48 am
by xerrol nanoha
ThongSong wrote:yo dwag I heard you like power armour so I put power armour on your power armour so you can power armour while you power armour?

I totally wanted to make a meme image for this, but you beat me to the punch

Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Thu 02 Jan, 2014 11:10 am
by Orkfaeller
Everytime I see them I think, who ever came up with this must have been a fan of SCII's Marauders / Firebats

Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Thu 02 Jan, 2014 11:23 am
by ChrisNihilus
Orkfaeller wrote:Everytime I see them I think, who ever came up with this must have been a fan of SCII's Marauders / Firebats

Marauders and Firebat are awesome.
Now that you point it to me, i like Centurions even more.
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Thu 02 Jan, 2014 11:43 am
by Orkfaeller
I like firebats
in STARCRAFT.
Centurions are mutilating the existing background to shoehorn something in that just doesnt make sense in this universe.
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Thu 02 Jan, 2014 1:44 pm
by Pandemic
Flash wrote:@Pandemic
What do you call an M-1 Abrahams if not a big hunk of armor + a big ass arty piece for a smaller guy in littler armor? Making armor for the armor is really not so far-fetched as you make it sound, the concept has kinda been illustrated by the progression of our own real world military machines. Making them tougher, more powerful, or more mobile.
Very bad comparison.
We're talking about a guy in power armour, the third most powerful infantry armour available in the Imperium sitting inside another suit of armour over the top of his other one that is supposedly even stronger than Terminator armour, so just to recap.
Wearing power armour and then some ungodly huge larger power armour over the top of it. It's pretty obvious why this is terrible in every possible way.
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Thu 02 Jan, 2014 4:09 pm
by Caeltos
Well to be honest, the armor is not just for simply protection. Besides that, just because they've got a very good armor from the get-go, doesn't make them invulnerable, so it's pretty understandable they would furthermore look for improvements.
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Thu 02 Jan, 2014 4:59 pm
by Bahamut
also, centurion warsuit exoskeleton is not meant to be stronger than terminator armor according to wiki
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Thu 02 Jan, 2014 5:06 pm
by saltychipmunk
so basically terminators with bigger guns and no teleport ..
a ... dreadnought?
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Thu 02 Jan, 2014 5:36 pm
by Bahamut
saltychipmunk wrote:so basically terminators with bigger guns and no teleport ..
a ... dreadnought?
yeah, centurion warsuit exoskeleton is supposed to be a dreadnought that doesnt require a "dead" marine to pilot.
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Thu 02 Jan, 2014 8:22 pm
by Sub_Zero
What about to give SM only one centurion who would act like GUO for example?

Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Fri 03 Jan, 2014 2:53 am
by ThongSong
I wouldn't mind a t2-t3 upgrade that turns a devastator squad into a 3 man short ranged anti-tank / artillery squad like wraithguard
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Fri 03 Jan, 2014 8:48 am
by Torpid
I wouldn't mind a squad of imperial sanctioned psykers so IG get some wraithguard pl0x.
Thxverymuch.
But why do you want it, is there a compositional hole already in place, will it serve a purpose, will it hinder or help balance, why?
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Fri 03 Jan, 2014 9:15 am
by Lost Son of Nikhel
And I want Obliterators! And Possesed Marines! And Chosen Marines! And Daemonnettes! HOT AND SPICY Daemonnettes! Hot and Spicy Daemonnettes with TWO boobs! And no nasty surprises! I feel so alone in the Eye of Terror....
Or even better! A Chaos Rhino! God, I will give the half of souls* of this forum to Chaos Gods for a mobile reinforce point for Kay-Osshh.
Regardless the kick that this thing AKA Centurions gives to the SM fluff (even more than my 21th hidden Primarch idea from my personal fluff) I can't find an adequate role for this unit. Short Range artillery? Why? SM already have a no power cost Plasma Devastators and the Whirlwind for long range disruption.
*Excluding my soul, of course.
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Fri 03 Jan, 2014 11:41 am
by MaxPower
As Nikhel mentioned, what would be the purpose of the unit considering the fact that Space Marines already have multiple artillery pieces at their disposal.
And on another note, do we have the models, would we have good looking textures, do we have animations, fx, ui portraits? No? Okay, no Centurions it is then.
Btw. I'd like a an upgrade for the Terminator FC - turning him into a Chapter Master (with armor much like the one worn by Marneus Calgar) a single entity super unit like the GUO or the Avatar oR give him a Terminator retinue...huruhrhur

Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Fri 03 Jan, 2014 11:46 am
by Sub_Zero
I would characterize SM's artillery as highly unreliable and even dangerous for your forces.
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Fri 03 Jan, 2014 11:51 am
by Ace of Swords
i'd rather have a decent ranged force by actually separating the sterns from the tacts or a specialized melee unit for T2, there is no use for centurions.
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Fri 03 Jan, 2014 5:30 pm
by ThongSong
who cares about whether this unit needs to be practical or not.
all that matters is awesome.
The commissar below seems to agree with me.

Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Fri 03 Jan, 2014 6:08 pm
by MaxPower
ThongSong wrote:who cares about whether this unit needs to be practical or not.
all that matters is awesome.
The commissar below seems to agree with me.

It matters, because this is the Elite Mod and not the Codex Edition Mod. You want new units just for the sake of it, go play the Codex Edition Mod then.
Re: Space Marine Devastator Centurions
Posted: Sat 04 Jan, 2014 12:38 am
by Flash
I understand you guys' point about a tank not being the best analogy, but I still disagree, tacking on more armor and weapons to existing armor is not that foreign of a concept. note I'm not advocating for inclusion of centurions.