Dawn of War Codex

I'm not against the goggle-eyes thing at all, but they should look petrol green/hollow not bright glowing grass green

i'd make them bigger; the glass on masks is usually pretty big in order to get the best vision possible. right now they look like sunglasses; those weird round ones.

Why not making them an upgrade for Plague Marines (Like Sternguard Veterans for Tactical Marines)?

Aertes wrote:Why not making them an upgrade for Plague Marines (Like Sternguard Veterans for Tactical Marines)?

I already suggested, times ago, to give Plague Marine a melee-oriented upgrade.
People didn't like the idea.

The eyes should be sickly bile yellow/dirty green not something bright, they are all shiny. Dunno how easy that would be to change.

Recolouring really is the easiest of jobs.

that looks so cool

Good idea with the placement of the eyes Orkfaeller, will make some further changes there.

Thanks for the feedback guys. With regards to Plageumarine heads with 3 eyes, horn mutations etc I've got 4 other Nurgle helmets but I'm saving them for the Chaos Legions DLC packs to give some variety to the Plague Champion (always annoyed me how relic kept him the same in the Wordbearers pack) so those of you wanting that won't have to wait too much longer - will showcase them in my thread later this week.

Some more editing, horn replaced with spikes, eyes made larger and further apart.

I can upload the helm whenever if Orkfaeller or someone who can texture wants to have a go at recolouring the eyes so they're less luminous.

EDIT - Those of you asking for different nurgle helmet designs, have a look at the latest in my thread for what you can expect.

I'd edit the knife and remove the bolts. Once thing is that it must look rotten (the ork knife works good on that side) but it is a corrupted marine weapon after all, the bolts look too primitive on it.

Aditionally, could one of the squad's members come equiped with a bilethrower? or add the option for normal Plague Marines of replacing the missile launcher for a bilethrower?.
I always want to see thsi weapon in more places than the plague champion.

The current knife is just a placeholder until the new design is finished.

Aertes wrote:I'd edit the knife and remove the bolts. Once thing is that it must look rotten (the ork knife works good on that side) but it is a corrupted marine weapon after all, the bolts look too primitive on it.

I think its a placeholder. David is working on a skin for an adjusted model.

the final knife is thinner and has no bolts

and what is this for ? another super tanky melee squad with TON ? If those CHOSEN Plague Marines wont be OP with 100 heavy melee dps , and if they dont gonna have abyss inside their CHOSEN pocket there is no need to do them. Why ?
Well... TON with ticks can do all of those what even nobz cant.

Plague of Undeath - how it should work - affect only on 1 squad , slowing it down , debuffing dmg of all squad members , dealing 30 dmg overe time for 7 sec .

Or more dont know...

But i would rather see more balance (for good ofc ) changes than new units every month. It's just not needed at all. We dont want to make codex edition overe here , do we ?

Rataxas wrote:and what is this for ? another super tanky melee squad with TON ? If those CHOSEN Plague Marines wont be OP with 100 heavy melee dps , and if they dont gonna have abyss inside their CHOSEN pocket there is no need to do them. Why ?
Well... TON with ticks can do all of those what even nobz cant.

Plague of Undeath - how it should work - affect only on 1 squad , slowing it down , debuffing dmg of all squad members , dealing 30 dmg overe time for 7 sec .

Or more dont know...

But i would rather see more balance (for good ofc ) changes than new units every month. It's just not needed at all. We dont want to make codex edition overe here , do we ?

Please read the OP next time.

Why was TON even brought here?

Also, suggested PoU is boring and superfluous. Existing one may be pointless most of the time (hence the idea to replace it with whatever), but swapping with with single-target slowing nuke, really?

The eyes still look.... yuck... Plus i don't think a loincloth looks very good unless you're gonna make a different textture than that. Right now it looks very hodgepodge.

As before, its not finished, and will be retextured.

The chains look fine in game, this is just model editor with no lighting etc applied.

Btw, Caeltos and Lulgrim, do you remember the 2 csm models created by Shuma, which were discussed in the topic "Create New (viable) Chaos Units"? What do you think about using one of those as chosen PM?
(there are no decay signs on them, true, still the are very chaos "authentic".)

No, those Chosens are planned for two possible things at the moment
- "Unique Warband" (Such as Word Bearers & Alpha Legion)

or possible new rank unlock.

They are perfect for a Blood Gorgons DLC or Black Legion DLC.

Oh, I see, you really keep everything in mind.)
Nice little glimpse into future additions.)


(personally 'd like to see them rather as a rank unlock than dlc - but this is off topic here.)

Nothing will be rank unlock except for Cosmetics.

What is the actual DPS of the marines though - that is, 16 dmg on hit, but the translation on a per second basis? I'm assuming higher as they are wielding knives.

I was reading Black Crusade, the RPG, and i find myself intrigued about the Forsaken Marines.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/black-crusade/news/archetypes/Forsaken.pdf

I immediatly connected them to the Siege of Vraks (which i'd already talk about in a precedent post), where several chaos bands of Nurgle, all descendants of the Death Guard, where shattered after the (glorious, but still) defeat.

The chapters were: Apostles of Contagion, Lords of Decay, the Purge and the Tainted.

There were other non-Nugle bands, but for the most part the defence was on the Death Guard descendants' shoulders.

I can easily imagine how many survivors of the battle shattered in minor warband just to assemble again when summoned by some leader, like a... Plague Champion.

So, my suggestion is to change the name from Chosen Plague Marine, which i found good but a little sterile, to "Forsaken Plague Marine" or, better, "Forsakens of Vraks".

Now that i made myself look very boring to you, i'll vanish and i will never speak about this anymore.

Commissar Vocaloid wrote:What is the actual DPS of the marines though - that is, 16 dmg on hit, but the translation on a per second basis? I'm assuming higher as they are wielding knives.

There DPS is highly fluxuate depending if they're left or not. Most of their dps comes from their damage over-time.

They've recieved some new overall utilities, I just haven't updated the OP yet. I'll get around to then when they're undergone some testing.

ChrisNihilus wrote:I was reading Black Crusade, the RPG, and i find myself intrigued about the Forsaken Marines.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/black-crusade/news/archetypes/Forsaken.pdf

I immediatly connected them to the Siege of Vraks (which i'd already talk about in a precedent post), where several chaos bands of Nurgle, all descendants of the Death Guard, where shattered after the (glorious, but still) defeat.

The chapters were: Apostles of Contagion, Lords of Decay, the Purge and the Tainted.

There were other non-Nugle bands, but for the most part the defence was on the Death Guard descendants' shoulders.

I can easily imagine how many survivors of the battle shattered in minor warband just to assemble again when summoned by some leader, like a... Plague Champion.

So, my suggestion is to change the name from Chosen Plague Marine, which i found good but a little sterile, to "Forsaken Plague Marine" or, better, "Forsakens of Vraks".

Now that i made myself look very boring to you, i'll vanish and i will never speak about this anymore.

But this is just a fluff thing with very little basis. Vraks is just another of many conflicts so this is highly situational, plus Dow does not happen on Vraks.

About their design, i think that to better represent them as fanatic of diseases, they should loose from their mouth filters a poisonous liquid, while from their armour emerges a toxic cloud of pestilence that follows them....
About the standard plague marines, are they gonna have some upgrade in the next patch?

PM's won't get an upgrade. They will get changed though. Just read the patch notes.