Dawn of War Codex

Sweet

Holy shit dude your talent is incredible.

Haha amazing!

We all know the quality of the artwork is very high, that's not in question.

If I were to offer one point of criticism though; it's to remember these are made to be in-game assets and part of a GUI. Namely, your portraits tend to be quite dark relatively speaking and detail is lost when viewed in a roster. A lot of people criticise the apparent lack of detail and slightly "cartoony" style of some of the stock portraits (especially IG), but it's done to make them easy to distinguish at a glance. Not everyone has good eyesight, and game artists/GUI devs have to think of accessibility in that regard. I probably notice this more than most since I spend so much time looking at the obs rosters of 3v3s.

I'm not sure what you can do with this information, as I love the detailed original artwork being put into the game - they are high enough quality to be wall posters. Just perhaps something to consider.

Looking forward to seeing some glorious Chosen PMs.

Indrid wrote:We all know the quality of the artwork is very high, that's not in question.

If I were to offer one point of criticism though; it's to remember these are made to be in-game assets and part of a GUI. Namely, your portraits tend to be quite dark relatively speaking and detail is lost when viewed in a roster. A lot of people criticise the apparent lack of detail and slightly "cartoony" style of some of the stock portraits (especially IG), but it's done to make them easy to distinguish at a glance. Not everyone has good eyesight, and game artists/GUI devs have to think of accessibility in that regard. I probably notice this more than most since I spend so much time looking at the obs rosters of 3v3s.

I'm not sure what you can do with this information, as I love the detailed original artwork being put into the game - they are high enough quality to be wall posters. Just perhaps something to consider.

Looking forward to seeing some glorious Chosen PMs.

Yea, I was trying to consider this option, most of the GK roster is quite easy to distinguis, only the light-armored ones seem to blend in more into one tone :/ I'll try to look into it however, since the point would be to have a solid portrait thats also easy to decide what the heck is on the pic itself, so solid point I think I'll play with the values and re-upload the darker ones later

I just want to do the rest first, so its more coherent ^^

Kilgarn wrote:*LOTS OF DRAWN AWESOMNESS*

That just pure gold! Especially Catachans - strongly reminded me Colonel Straken "Iron Hand". GK OP(ba dum tss) looks awesome too.
Maybe you will draw portraits for Dark Reapers, Dire Avengers, Fire Dragons, Howling Banshees and (probably) Rangers/Seer Council? Would be really nice to see it from you.

Incredible art as always. In fact not quite as always since I feel you are getting even better (I don't know how that's quite possible ).

Next up, IG Stormtrooper and Ogryns =) After that, Chosen Plague Marines and... dunno

And... ascension to immortal deamonhood, next logical step.

By the way I remember you mentioning a banshee commission on the Eternal Crusade forum, how is that going ?

PS : Ho and any news from GW ?

Dalakh wrote:Incredible art as always. In fact not quite as always since I feel you are getting even better (I don't know how that's quite possible ).

Next up, IG Stormtrooper and Ogryns =) After that, Chosen Plague Marines and... dunno

And... ascension to immortal deamonhood, next logical step.

By the way I remember you mentioning a banshee commission on the Eternal Crusade forum, how is that going ?

PS : Ho and any news from GW ?

xD that would be interesting to say the least
Yea I have one, however poor guy have waited quite some time (about half a year by now...) since I was totally wrapped up with everyday sillyiness, couldn't draw anything for a longer period. Hopefully he still wants to do it ^^ If so, then you will see some eldar battle scene

And no word from GW. I got an apology letter about 2 weeks ago, that they haven't able to give an answer since the art manager is on paternal leave and they wanted him to check it. And I submitted my work about... 1 and a half month ago? :'D hopefully I'll get some replies soon, this starts to get annoying...

Like the quality of the drawing and that you keep it in the same style as the other pictures but that facial expression (if I may word it this way)... It is like a parrot who saw something really interesting. A surprised parrot. Cannot perceive this guy serious, he is a little bit ridiculous.

Sub_Zero wrote:Like the quality of the drawing and that you keep it in the same style as the other pictures but that facial expression (if I may word it this way)... It is like a parrot who saw something really interesting. A surprised parrot. Cannot perceive this guy serious, he is a little bit ridiculous.

Which one? o_O
The Operative or the Catachan...? *confused*

I had already rated your catachans. The previous post is about the latest picture - the operative.

Sub_Zero wrote:I had already rated your catachans. The previous post is about the latest picture - the operative.

Well, problem is the base model dont really leave too much room for interpretation tbh :')
I already steched the basic look to a limit I think ^^; Not sure what else I could do with it, to be honest.

HOLY FUCK AT THE OPERATIVE. I mean, it's awesome, and my model couldn't get a better interpretation.


Also, for the inspiration, i mostly started with this image,

especially when it came to the model's uniform. I then added various inspirations, chiefly from the new tempestus scions, which I mostly dislike, but i find excellent if placed in a daemonhunters army's general design.

Sub_Zero wrote:Like the quality of the drawing and that you keep it in the same style as the other pictures but that facial expression (if I may word it this way)... It is like a parrot who saw something really interesting. A surprised parrot. Cannot perceive this guy serious, he is a little bit ridiculous.

Helmets have expressions now ? That's a new one.

The operative portrait is flipping awesome.

I wish you ll make portrait for Chosen plague marines because it's the only unit at the moment (not including op's but you already did portrait for them) who use portrait of the other unit.

DandyFrontline wrote:I wish you ll make portrait for Chosen plague marines because it's the only unit at the moment (not including op's but you already did portrait for them) who use portrait of the other unit.

Working on that one Also, Terminator commander also uses the default Termi portrait X) its especially annoying to find which is it, if you happen to have termies :'D

In regards to what Indrid said, I think maybe even just flipping the portrait horizontally might distinguish it quite a bit from the IST and the Assassin. All the GK portraits already seem very distinct.

Helios wrote:In regards to what Indrid said, I think maybe even just flipping the portrait horizontally might distinguish it quite a bit from the IST and the Assassin. All the GK portraits already seem very distinct.

The assassin looks to the right though But at least it will look different from the stormtrooper if nothing else, good poing ^^

Here's what all 3 look like together in a scaled down size similar to what you might see on the observer bar in a match. Even though the Assassin also looks to the right, even with a super quick glance you can tell which is which thanks to the little antennae he has with the light on it. Although Indrid does seem to have a point with the darkness somewhat obscuring the operatives. It's more noticeable on it than either of the other two.

Helios wrote:Here's what all 3 look like together in a scaled down size similar to what you might see on the observer bar in a match. Even though the Assassin also looks to the right, even with a super quick glance you can tell which is which thanks to the little antennae he has with the light on it. Although Indrid does seem to have a point with the darkness somewhat obscuring the operatives. It's more noticeable on it than either of the other two.

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Hm, ok I flip it and brighten up the darker part so its more easier to see
Thanks ^^

Helmets have expressions now ? That's a new one.

if I may word it this way - so you don't let me do that? Come on, helmets can express emotions, usually they are menacing to terrify enemies but in this case it looked funny to me and resembled one creature.

Sub_Zero wrote:

Helmets have expressions now ? That's a new one.

if I may word it this way - so you don't let me do that? Come on, helmets can express emotions, usually they are menacing to terrify enemies but in this case it looked funny to me and resembled one creature.

I think you just got too much imagination. I cant see anything funny in operatives helmet.

That is like an innocent child looks at someone superior who berates him for something he hasn't done. "But that wasn't me!"

Whatever image comes to mind but not the image of a fearsome warrior whose very look is sufficient to understand that he is the wrong person to mess with.

I am not going to quote everyone of you and say that you have no imagination (as opposed to my "very strong imagination"). Just leave my perception be and move along.

Sub_Zero wrote:That is like an innocent child looks at someone superior who berates him for something he hasn't done. "But that wasn't me!"

Whatever image comes to mind but not the image of a fearsome warrior whose very look is sufficient to understand that he is the wrong person to mess with.

I am not going to quote everyone of you and say that you have no imagination (as opposed to my "very strong imagination"). Just leave my perception be and move along.

To be fair, the original model's headgear is not on the scary side as well I could've made it scarier, but skull respirators and whatnot were not the part of the model X) Altho on second thought it might look nice xD who knows?

He looks fearsome in his impassiveness and it works, I always imagined Storm Troopers as being the footsloggers whilst Operatives are the like the special forces, deployed in small units to strike a decisive blow without hesitation.

Quality work as always Kilgarn. That operative looks mean.

Caeltos, how long I have 'til the next patch drops?
I'll try to include some more portraits and made the fixes as suggested on the Operative and the darker ones as well =)

Let me know!

Hopefully sometime this month, probably towards the end of the month. So ~1&half to 2 weeks.

Kilgarn wrote:Caeltos, how long I have 'til the next patch drops?
I'll try to include some more portraits and made the fixes as suggested on the Operative and the darker ones as well =)

Let me know!

Wow amazing , ur spoiling us

Naaah ^^

I just really love this mod + you guys And the community is great so its worth it ^^
Besides, I always shiver when I see some of the older portraits (like poor IG stormtroopers/ogryns :'D) so its a win-win situation