The Codex WIP

[Wise Windu]

I could do it for the wargear weapons, but I don't think I'd be able to do it for default weapons since I'd need access to the actual database, which I don't have.

I'd have to add the special attack damage to the wargear tab, not the weapon tab, hence no default weapons -.-

Or if you want, I can just tell you what they are

[Torpid]

Be awesome if you could database it since very few people know those values off by heart as of now so we'd have to keep coming back to this page on this thread endlessly.

[Wise Windu]

Yeah. You'll have to talk to Lulgrim about it, then.

[Lulgrim]

Made a thing.

http://www.dawnofwar.info/index.php?page=elite/eldritch

How about effect radius for each point? That should be easy with Higcharts I think.

You could also color code each group (some sort of logic there, like darker shade for higher delay).

I've thought about drawing splash patterns for AoE weapons and special attacks like what dow2info used to have, but none of the plugins I've found so far support that type of graphs straight away without massively complicated combinations or such (basically just circles and sectors/pies with different color layers to separate the damage modifiers).

[Wise Windu]

Made a thing.

http://www.dawnofwar.info/index.php?page=elite/eldritch

How about effect radius for each point? That should be easy with Higcharts I think.

You could also color code each group (some sort of logic there, like darker shade for higher delay).

Yeah, good ideas, should be easy enough.

I've thought about drawing splash patterns for AoE weapons and special attacks like what dow2info used to have, but none of the plugins I've found so far support that type of graphs straight away without massively complicated combinations or such (basically just circles and sectors/pies with different color layers to separate the damage modifiers).

I was thinking about something like this, too. And yeah, I haven't been able to find anything uncomplicated, either.

Edit: by the way, do you know how the coordinates in the game files relate to the default camera position?

[lolzarz]

Would also be nice to see the special effects; knockback, change in damage type (see warlock), etc.

[Wise Windu]

http://www.dawnofwar.info/index.php?page=elite/eldritch

Added radii to the graph tooltips, and added pretty colors. Also made a plot for Roks:

http://www.dawnofwar.info/index.php?page=elite/roks

The delay is slightly wrong at the moment, all of the delays should have 1.111 seconds added to them (this is the spawn time of the Roks), plus the different delays from the separate 3 entities that are used to spawn the roks. I'm also going to add falling time and probably change the colors. But I have to go out soon, so I'll be doing that later.

They are both linked to their respective global abilities on the Codex hero pages.

Oh, and the Kommando Nob is done.

And again, I'm not sure how the coordinates work. Help pls

[Torpid]

Has roks been changed since chaos rising to elite mod in the way it drops?

[Lichtbringer]

There is an error in the Warpspiders leveling tab. The shown information is from the Commander (10 levels) , not from the Squad.

[Wise Windu]

Has roks been changed since chaos rising to elite mod in the way it drops?

You mean the order and shape? Not sure. The damage has, definitely.

There is an error in the Warpspiders leveling tab. The shown information is from the Commander (10 levels) , not from the Squad.

So there is. They actually have the same filename as the WSE. Will get on that.

[Nuclear Arbitor]

the takeaway from roks is, "Left, upper left!" and that is really all you need to know.

[Torpid]

Well this video seems suggest otherwise, rather that going to the top-right is better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR9wVQ9jWC8 but I always thought it was top-left myself and that video is from CR.

[Lulgrim]

Added radii to the graph tooltips, and added pretty colors.

I meant make the dots into circles sized according to effect radius.

[Wise Windu]

Added radii to the graph tooltips, and added pretty colors.

I meant make the dots into circles sized according to effect radius.

Was going to do that too ^^

Well this video seems suggest otherwise, rather that going to the top-right is better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR9wVQ9jWC8 but I always thought it was top-left myself and that video is from CR.

Looks like the positive Y axis points to the top left. So going bottom or top is probably best.

[Nuclear Arbitor]

it has to do with timing too; lower and more towards the right get's hit with bigger rocks faster.

[Myrdal]

Edit: by the way, do you know how the coordinates in the game files relate to the default camera position?

Horizontal camera angle is 225 degrees according to camera.lua found in GameAssets\Archives\000_data.sga so rotate by that amount (counter-clockwise) and it should be more accurate.

[Wise Windu]

Awesome, thanks.

[Sub_Zero]

They're the same as the default ones.

The point of the Khorne predator is that it does 25% more damage with its autocannon and heavy bolters. At least this is how I have always thought about it. That boost is very noticeable. I can't believe that bolters remain the same.

[Wise Windu]

They're the same as the default ones.

The point of the Khorne predator is that it does 25% more damage with its autocannon and heavy bolters. At least this is how I have always thought about it. That boost is very noticeable. I can't believe that bolters remain the same.

75% more damage. The bolters are the same, but the damage modifier increases damage by 75%. I misunderstood before. I'll add them to the upgrade tab.

[Wise Windu]

Ork commanders are up.

[Wise Windu]

Ork units are up. No leveling tab for the tankbustas, and the stormboy upkeep is not 4200

[Forestradio]

Reinforcement cost for SM terminators and assault terminators is 150/25 not 150/50

[Dark Riku]

ASM sarge cost is wrong. It's supposed to be 100/25 not 50/25.

[Wise Windu]

ASM sarge cost is wrong. It's supposed to be 100/25 not 50/25.

Fixed

Reinforcement cost for SM terminators and assault terminators is 150/25 not 150/50

Noted, might not be fixed immediately since I can't edit cost and stats tabs.

[Dark Riku]

The damage for the Khorne autocannon on the predator is very much off.
It's 150,5 damage per shot, opposed to the very low 86 that shows in the Codex atm.
(forgot to add +75% from the Khorne upgrade I think)

[Wise Windu]

It is correct. The autocannon itself does that much damage, and then it is multiplied by 1.75. Check the upgrade tab.

[Dark Riku]

http://www.dawnofwar.info/elite/weapon. ... e_predator
http://www.dawnofwar.info/index.php?pag ... s_predator --> weapon

Both these pages are very very misleading, they really should be changed.


I know that the upgrade page states the correct value
http://www.dawnofwar.info/index.php?pag ... s_predator

[Wise Windu]

Changed the autocannon.

[Lulgrim]

It was correct, though. While now the MoK autocannon data is technically incorrect.

[Wise Windu]

Yeah, and I've been thinking of changing it back since I changed it. I really can't see it being that confusing when all you have to do is click on a different tab to find the upgrade effects.

Edit: Yeah, reverted.