Dawn of War Codex

Gorbles wrote:DoW II sold really well, for the record.

There is very little in terms of "fracture", DoW II was an inherently different game to vDoW and garnered a different playerbase over time. If DoW III doesn't mind that rift a bit, at least it's marketable to a wider demographic in the meantime.

That is true over the long term, but near release is when you get the most players and also the biggest sense of community. Being "part of something" is important for overall enjoyment of the game; at least, to me.

Plus, in my little corner of the world & bizarre time zone there needs to be a lot of people on line for matchmaking. I am hoping for a lot of players picking up the game at release.

Well yeah that's fair enough, but flanking in DoW III has other benefits. It does not deny cover unless the opponent leaves theirs, it does not make retreat dangerous but since units can't retreat they have to sluggishly walk through an enemy line or risk going forward. Setup teams have no arc so that is one less advantage but there are other advantages in flanking in DoW III that are ********NDA-NDA-NDA-NDA-NDA-NDA*********

Flanking is actually a disadvantage in DoWII because then the enemy unit is on the correct side of his cover .

flanking in dow2 wasn't implemented really well, Because You have to be literally behind them to remove the cover bonus. An\d to do that you would have to go way around to the point where you are behind their lines. Although when it is done correctly it is devastating.

If I could change the cover system it would be that rather that units gain cover benefits for a weapon thats firing at them depending on where to fire is coming from. Like everything in a 90 degree angle that's firing at the squad in cover then that squad gains full benefits. Then the 45 degree angles on either side of that 90 degree (to make 180) the cover benefits are diminished a bit. Like light cover now only grants 10% range damage reduction and a 10% reduction to received accuracy.

Idk if that makes sense. I tried to do what i could.

So the benefits of cover would be reduced in accordance to how far away from the front the shots are coming from?

Hey, i found some directional cover in DOW3. This video from about 0:59 seconds to 1:03 the guardian shots are blocked by the terrain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqkCcoJgXzE

Second wave of closed beta invites apparently.

Still not in

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

"The loyals are rewarded' MY ASS

yeah yeah, I'm mad

preorder cancelled

manonmars wrote:preorder cancelled

Why ?

cause its heresy to the whole wh40k Universum and especially to the dawn of war Franchise.

im done with this. i dont support relic anymore until they give us a real grimdark dawn of war and not a moba-starcraft-something clone.

sry, after that stupid multiplayer gameplay it gives no excuses anymore...

shitty cartoonstyle...ok
shit voiceacting...ok
shit animations...ok
shit moba-kiddy-dow-starcraft something multiplayer gameplaymix wtf ever this is...no fuck!! i just cant handle it anymore.

im done...and i hope as mutch as possible do the same.

manonmars wrote:cause its heresy to the whole wh40k Universum and especially to the dawn of war Franchise.

im done with this. i dont Support relic anymore until they give us a real grimdark dawn of war and not a moba-starcraft-something clone.

sry, after that stupid multiplayer gameplay it gives no excuses anymore...

shitty cartoonstyle...ok
shit voiceacting...ok
shit animations...ok
shit moba-kiddy something multiplayer gameplay wtf ever this mix is...no fuck!! i just cant handle it anymore.

im done...and i hope as mutch as possible do the same.

In the grim dark future of the 41st Millennium there is only MOBA

yea im done, that multiplayer gameplay was just too mutch for me...and i was one of the tolerant--

Cancel your pre-order and miss out on all those juicy cosmetic changes??????????????????

manonmars wrote:yea im done, that multiplayer gameplay was just too mutch for me...and i was one of the tolerant--

shitty cartoonstyle...ok
shit voiceacting...ok
shit animations...ok

You have an interesting definition of "tolerant"

I don't know man, he did seem to tolerate those.

manonmars wrote:preorder cancelled

Have you tried the game in beta ?
If not, why did you preorder it ?
If yes, you don't like it, fine. GIMME YOUR BETA KEY

lol, cause its dow? and i had hope, and its gone...the question should be why youre still exciting about this game...

cause it's still dow.

no it isnt anymore...and u know that

do u remember, the first time u saw a Dreadnought in Action in dow 1? in dow 2, it was the same Feeling....u feel it in dow3?noo... its just wtf haha, its definitly gone, all that good feelings. and that shit multiplayerpart, destroy some things to win, wtf---
why u still want to talk about this?

manonmars wrote:lol, cause its dow? and i had hope, and its gone...the question should be why youre still exciting about this game...

Did you play the beta?

its not dow anymore.
they destroyed our game we liked.
Sega/Relic defenitly likes bizzards ass

manonmars wrote:do u remember, the first time u saw a Dreadnought in Action in dow 1? in dow 2, it was the same Feeling....u feel it in dow3?noo... its just wtf haha, its definitly gone, all that good feelings. and that shit multiplayerpart, destroy some things to win, wtf---
why u still want to talk about this?

They have moved that feeling to the elites.

....thats a bad joke yes?
cause Dreadnoughts are made plastic, and elite Units Metal?
my english is still not that fucking bad as dow3 is, cant believe that fact, and its a big one lol--

manonmars wrote:lol, cause its dow? and i had hope, and its gone...the question should be why youre still exciting about this game...

Whilst DOW3 does look in all ways abysmal, I shall say on thing - you should never pre-order a game. Just on principle ,even if you know it will be brilliant. It is a horrible thing for the gaming industry as a whole. And developers/publishers shouldn't get rewarded for encouraging it but punished. It lets them get away with releases broken buggy games from the outset and patch them up slowly with 10% of their dev team whilst the other 90% work on DLC and/or other games.

Don't pre-order things...

i had hope, thats all, fuck its dow, i play that game/franchise since beginning (fucking 15 years...?), but they fucked it up like crazy, i have enough now, and why not preorder a game u allways liked---i just canceled it, its just sad

Definitely agree with Torpid - pre-ordering, as well as buying low-effort DLC ends up rewarding companies for behaviours that ought to be discouraged. As a consumer of video games, the average person has no direct say in the design process of video games... so our only power comes from speaking with our wallets.

yea--
why the fuck we cant have epic fights with good realistic animations and graphics, while sc2 and moba is looking like a fucking kid game, why not?? just dont get it, its just a shame...
it has really no fucking reason haha...yea its gone, glhf

They just wanna get money, that is why they making this shitty moba-like game coz mobas sells better...

Son of Malice wrote:They just wanna get money, that is why they making this shitty moba-like game coz mobas sells better...

MOBAs, the typically free-to-play genre, sell better.