How to beat Chaos in first engagement
Posted: Mon 08 Jun, 2015 1:04 pm
So title says it all. My friend and I are relatively new to the mod however from what we've seen chaos is insanely good in the first engagement, whichever commander they take.
Now, by first engagement I mean the typical first fight where the chaos player has a marine squad, his commander and heretics.
The plague champion is by far the worst offender, by default whoever you are it is likely they can out shoot you when they take this commander, ESPECIALLY if they use the heretic heal worship. Now the only way to turn these engagements around is to stop the heretics from healing, however this is extremely difficult especially with ranged restricted armies like Guard. Anyway I'm speaking generally, you WILL be out shot if they have the heretics healing, if you move into melee you have to do it with your whole force, otherwise the unit pushing is gets focused down. Even then, the heretics simply stop worshipping and join the combat and you lose the engagement...
It's just as hard to deal with the lord as if you attempt to out shoot the enemy you'll get the lord and heretics in combat with you for sure, probably followed by the marines. Trying win this engagement with melee is just a waste of time as all the chaos units are good here.
The sorcerer is probably the easiest to deal with but still has the same fundamental issues.
In short, how the fuck are you supposed to win this first engagement??? In the case of the plague champ they'll just out shoot you and if you try to melee you still lose because of the amazing heretic utility. In the case of the chaos melee commanders you just get fucked up in melee as there simply isn't any way to stop multiple units getting into close combat with you that early in the game.
Now, by first engagement I mean the typical first fight where the chaos player has a marine squad, his commander and heretics.
The plague champion is by far the worst offender, by default whoever you are it is likely they can out shoot you when they take this commander, ESPECIALLY if they use the heretic heal worship. Now the only way to turn these engagements around is to stop the heretics from healing, however this is extremely difficult especially with ranged restricted armies like Guard. Anyway I'm speaking generally, you WILL be out shot if they have the heretics healing, if you move into melee you have to do it with your whole force, otherwise the unit pushing is gets focused down. Even then, the heretics simply stop worshipping and join the combat and you lose the engagement...
It's just as hard to deal with the lord as if you attempt to out shoot the enemy you'll get the lord and heretics in combat with you for sure, probably followed by the marines. Trying win this engagement with melee is just a waste of time as all the chaos units are good here.
The sorcerer is probably the easiest to deal with but still has the same fundamental issues.
In short, how the fuck are you supposed to win this first engagement??? In the case of the plague champ they'll just out shoot you and if you try to melee you still lose because of the amazing heretic utility. In the case of the chaos melee commanders you just get fucked up in melee as there simply isn't any way to stop multiple units getting into close combat with you that early in the game.