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Greetings Earthlings and Snotlings!

The ELITE Mod Round Table Show is coming your way later today at 9pm GMT/4pm EST, streamed live on twitch by Atlas: http://www.twitch.tv/atlastheinquiring

This is a community event where various famous names from the game come together to discuss the state of the game and their opinions on the new ELITE Mod 2.5 patch. We'll be looking at the current state of the balance, discussing potential future changes as well as meta predictions for the upcoming Team Tumble 2. The brackets for the event can be found here: TT 2 Brackets.

Features of the stream will be:
- An interview with the lead designer Caeltos himself
- Round table discussion
- Patch notes and map reviews

The line-up for the stream is going to make for some good material as we may see experts such as Ace of Swords and modders such as Wise Windu, hosted by the charming and witty Atlas.

I hope that all of you can join us for this fantastic venture and if it's a success, expect to see more next weekend as we discuss the aftermath of the Team Tumble.

A big thanks to Atlas for hosting the stream tonight even if it overran but forty five minutes. What a bro.

Couldn't have done it without Caeltos and our various experts and it was good to see people challenging things.

We're looking into doing another next week that will be slicker and hopefully more comfortable where we can look at maps, tournaments and ESL in depth.

Thanks for running this guys, it was a lot of fun. I hope more of it happens!

It’s not up for watching on-demand?
Purge that, it’s just titled XCOM Playthrough: http://www.twitch.tv/atlastheinquiring/v/51176838

It should be on YouTube fairly soon too.

First try was good, next time you should up the "production values" and less brown nosing plox.

So did the proof of concept actually work out in the end?

A better idea next time is that this is scheduled and announced via something rather than less than 24 hours prior or similar. I would have made myself available to tune in if I knew it earlier in the week.

youtube channel?

PhatE wrote:A better idea next time is that this is scheduled and announced via something rather than less than 24 hours prior or similar. I would have made myself available to tune in if I knew it earlier in the week.

youtube channel?

+1

Would have liked people to pitch in a little bit more. Felt like they all kept in the background.
Also microphone statics and stuff, really annoying to listen to

PhatE wrote:So did the proof of concept actually work out in the end?

A better idea next time is that this is scheduled and announced via something rather than less than 24 hours prior or similar. I would have made myself available to tune in if I knew it earlier in the week.

youtube channel?

It started as a pre-patch video with high production value but never got finished as the patch hit before we could do interviews, so the concept was reworked super fast to be a post patch stream and suddenly I was hit by an absolute crap load of work and I've been frantically writing all week, so I had to leave it to Atlas mainly who had his own issues as Steve was not going to be around for when the stream was scheduled. We wrote the entire script an hour before the stream aired which was why it got announced at such short notice. I'm working on something for next week regarding showing off maps, ESL, tournaments and streamer talk, all of which is WIP.

So I'm sorry for the rushed announcement and lower production values but I'm under a lot of pressure right now and I had deliver something fast. Atlas was my saving grace and hopefully because of this next week can go ahead smoothly.

Nah I take part of the blame too brother Swift.

I hear all the complaints about it and, should this actually be something that happens more in the future, it'll be a lot more refined in later renditions.

As for the upload, I'm currently figuring out just how to upload it to youtube I'm not sure if youtube actually like a ~3 hour video that much.

If you can't wait for youtube, here is the twitch highlight: http://www.twitch.tv/atlastheinquiring/v/51342345

To pick in on some of the subjects.

I really like the idea of making an official Elite Mod Map Pool at the top of the list and the less balanced maps at the bottom. If possible.
Or at least have retail and other maps split if a consensus can not be made on "good" maps.
I'd make a list of what my map pool would look like soon if there is interest in it.

Heretics as a close combat unit are very lacklustre now. Only act as a screening tool, which is good.
Increasing their close combat powers a bit when buying an AC might be a thing to look into though. Think increasing their dmg to ~22 and blast to ~20.

Plague Marines bolters need a nerf. They are good vs infantry as well and shouldn't be.

@Caeltos. If economy is an issue with Fire Dragons and DA on the field why not change the eco for Fire Dragons instead?
This way you address the issue you feel there might be without also buffing the build orders without Fire Dragons.

Nobody mentioned the HWT change is also a buff to LC executing them

About LR & Vendread.
The LR drop should definitely cost at least 75-100 power. It's so strong and works in almost any situation.
While the Vendread is only useful in certain areas. The 100 power cost is fine, but the red and req are a bit too high imo.
500- 550 req and ~250 red seems more appropriate for the vendread.

No ranged snare for Nids kinda removes them from the competitive scene imo.
A transport is just untouchable for them and don't even mention any tank.

Chaos autocannon needs a nerf, for a long time now.

Dark Riku wrote:To pick in on some of the subjects.

I really like the idea of making an official Elite Mod Map Pool at the top of the list and the less balanced maps at the bottom. If possible.
Or at least have retail and other maps split if a consensus can not be made on "good" maps.
I'd make a list of what my map pool would look like soon if there is interest in it.

If it includes Lugganath Glacier, go ahead

Ok, little late but I admit I just forgot about this.

Here's the youtube link for the Round Table Show. Hope you'll hear the topics you wanted to if you haven't seen it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9J3bY9vKjg

So after the success of the first installment a second one has been commissioned with higher production values and more time put into it. Last week we were both very stretched by our sad real lives but this week things are much lighter.

Presenting:

ELITE Round Table II

This Saturday at 9pm GMT/4pm EST everyone's favourite Steve BbBoS will be hosting the second ELITE Round Table Show on his twitch channel:

LINKY-LINK

In this episode we will be covering:
- A look back at the meta over the past week since 2.5's release with commentary.
- The implementation of ESL and what it means for the competitive scene.
- New maps, analysis and reveals of future map improvements as well as teases to upcoming ones.
- Extra content regarding streamers and casters and what 2.5 means for them.

So join us on a Saturday on BbBoS' stream wherever you are in the world for top quality entertainment. We've upgraded the stream quality to have all sorts of flashy features and interesting bits of eye candy which should address many of the complaints about production from last time.

So short notice again and not available then
You guys got Choko on it, right?

The show starts in three and a half hours from now so make sure to have your tea and cakes ready for when the fun begins!

I'll get my popcorn ready :3

This is too big for me to watch it, but I can use it as audio later on.

We've started!

http://twitch.tv/bbbos

The past broadcast can be found here if you are impatient, otherwise the video will be on Youtube tomorrow afternoon 2pm UK time

Twitch also has Chat Replay so you can view what the chat was throughout the broadcast too!

http://www.twitch.tv/bbbos/v/52578196

Also as an edit, the TS password has changed, those who did have access before message me on Steam for the password

And here it is on YouTube with some time stamps in the description of the video if you want to skip over certain areas

I did try to remove the countdown, left PC on overnight to do that, video corrupted so had to upload the uncut version

Very nervous doing this and first time doing something like this so go easy on me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjcjvo3-t28#t=14m59s

Thanks for doing this. Huge fan if the game and it is oretty awesome u guys keep this alive. I am amazed all the balance, art, new race etc that happens. Look forward to watching on utube

Indeed, thank you for doing this from me as well! It's nice to see how a real table talk is supposed to look like

Looks really good. Like how you can see who's talking.

BbBoS wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjcjvo3-t28#t=14m59s

That IG player in the Taros Mining Facility replay

Is there going to be another one to cover 2.5.1?

Aetherion wrote:Is there going to be another one to cover 2.5.1?

The changes aren't large enough to really comment on, and I am not sure if we could get anything together of same production value.