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Whats more played vanilla or elite mod?
Posted: Tue 05 Apr, 2016 5:55 pm
by SiesmicSquall
Just looking for an honest answer. I'm planning on getting back into dow2 after a few years of inactivity. Don't get me wrong, i think Elite mod is great, but i mostly care about how fast I can find a game in a larger userbase.
Re: Whats more played vanilla or elite mod?
Posted: Tue 05 Apr, 2016 6:01 pm
by Psycho
Answer is irrelevant if you can just switch between vanilla and nonvanilla in less than a minute if you don't find games in either
Re: Whats more played vanilla or elite mod?
Posted: Tue 05 Apr, 2016 7:38 pm
by Ace of Swords
I think it's more or less even if you take TLS out of the equation, maybe retail is sightly more played, however outside of ELITE I don't think there exists a real community for DoW2 anymore.
Re: Whats more played vanilla or elite mod?
Posted: Tue 05 Apr, 2016 7:45 pm
by Cheekie Monkie
If your primary interest is being able to find quick games, regardless of the quality of the games played, then retail is the way to go. Vanilla will always have a larger playerbase due to it being the default choice.
However, if you eventually get tired of the number of people playing annihilate and the number of teammates capping as a group, then come over to Elite.
Re: Whats more played vanilla or elite mod?
Posted: Tue 05 Apr, 2016 7:48 pm
by SiesmicSquall
Thanks. I guess il jump around to get more 1v1 games in. I'm just use to using automatch. Does automatch really work in ELITE now?
Re: Whats more played vanilla or elite mod?
Posted: Tue 05 Apr, 2016 8:35 pm
by Wise Windu
It does, but not many people use it. We do have our own 1v1 ladder system, though. That can be done through matchmaking or customs.
Re: Whats more played vanilla or elite mod?
Posted: Wed 06 Apr, 2016 8:27 am
by GuruSkippy
btw, in elite matchmaking, wich ranking is used to find games, the Relic one ? or the ELITE one ?
Re: Whats more played vanilla or elite mod?
Posted: Wed 06 Apr, 2016 8:59 am
by Lichtbringer
GuruSkippy wrote:btw, in elite matchmaking, wich ranking is used to find games, the Relic one ? or the ELITE one ?
The relic one, which is still bugged out I think, so it doesn't match with a skill rating at all. And because of the low amount of players using the matchmaking, you basically get a game against whoever is searching.
Re: Whats more played vanilla or elite mod?
Posted: Wed 06 Apr, 2016 12:46 pm
by Ace of Swords
GuruSkippy wrote:btw, in elite matchmaking, wich ranking is used to find games, the Relic one ? or the ELITE one ?
The relic one.
Lichtbringer wrote:GuruSkippy wrote:btw, in elite matchmaking, wich ranking is used to find games, the Relic one ? or the ELITE one ?
The relic one, which is still bugged out I think, so it doesn't match with a skill rating at all. And because of the low amount of players using the matchmaking, you basically get a game against whoever is searching.
Correct, but it's because now the games that count as rated doesn't work as it should be due to the battleservers, for example, you now get 1v1 stats from custom games, as well as 2v2s and 3v3s (and they do count towards your 1v1 stats) this isn't an ELITE only thing, it's simply the whole system that was screwed by battleservers, so matchmaking as we intend it is pointless, there's also the fact that dow2 used to be based on points (ELO) and you could clearly see it in the stats, now, I believe it still works this way but you can't see it and instead of having a single ladder (talking about retail here) for all the factions, each faction is separated and has it's own ladder with the "best" player of that faction, basically like it's in CoH2, except here this system makes 0 sense since mirror matches are allowed.
For the rest, I don't know if the steam elo is still working (which was different from the in-game elo).
Re: Whats more played vanilla or elite mod?
Posted: Wed 06 Apr, 2016 1:06 pm
by Torpid
Steam elo no longer effects who you are matched up against when using the retail ranked system. That much is clear to me.
Also map preferences do nothing. This was all broken when relic made their first 'returning patch' recently.
As well as permanently bugging my game to not tell me when people drop
