Dawn of War Codex

Arguably, each phase of the game roughly corresponds to each of the Escalation Phases,

which begin every ten minutes:

1. Escalation Phase 1 - Units Refund 25% Resources Upon Death

2. Escalation Phase 2 - 15% Units Refunds, +50% Faster Resource Generation,

+50% Objective Structure Health, +25% Listening Post Health

3. Escalation Phase 3 - 5% Unit Refunds, +100% Faster Resource Generation,

+100% Objective Structure Health, +50% Listening Post Health

4. Escalation Phase 4 - 0% Unit Refunds, +150% Faster Resource Generation,

+150% Objective Structure Health, +70% Listening Post Health

I guess that explains why resources start to feel so infinite by end game.

The faction overview in particular is very nice to have just there.

That was a really good read. can't wait to sink my teeth into this game!

I would have thought that resource generation would slow down as the game goes on, so that each loss is felt more and the game can actually end. I guess this is for comeback purposes but could just lead to games dragging.

Lets just get one thing straight, their is no squad preservation in this game even the in a interview a while back they don't want it, this was why the retreat mechanic was removed cos keeping your squads alive is a bad thing now.

Indrid wrote:I would have thought that resource generation would slow down as the game goes on, so that each loss is felt more and the game can actually end. I guess this is for comeback purposes but could just lead to games dragging.

It's actually the opposite. It's set up so that losing squads and map early on isn't an auto gg but by the 20 minute mark, having map control will lead you to be able to steamroll the opponent with the boosted resource generation. Without unit refunds, it's just that much harder for you to replace losses without the points.

Probably a good thing, losing a squad in dow 2 was such a huge blow and yet at low level it was so easy to do. Probably put people of the game right off the bat.

I guess this really is DOW 1.5

Then where the strategy in this game then? their no squad preservation, no vet, no friendly fire, no early game pressure cus units do jack shit damage 3 tacs Marine squads unable to kill some Sluggas those 6 plus armor saves turn into a 1 plus or something, no cover and no bubble shield don't count as cover.

All elite units have some over powered shit but when your creep I mean amy cant kill anything I not surprised so until your elite units kill their amy you and them standing around building your blob up until then. All this game is build your creep let you elite units do the wiping,make sure you have more resource than him and then go hit his ancient I mean power core but then it over anyway cos your creep better then his and he has no way to come back so much strategy in this game.

Assuming you are talking specifically about how strategy and escalations work together, then early game you want to be aggressive and draw the line as close to the enemy base as possible. Establish a forward position, focus on getting as many squads out as you can and keeping the enemy pinned very early. Stay offensive early and often and take advantage of unit refunds. You don't want them entrenching themselves in a position that sets them up well late game.

On next phase, things open up a bit depending on if you want to go for vehicles and if you're getting decent push on their gens. Meta isn't quite figured out so there's a lot of experimentation here.

In phase 3/4, if you managed to hold map than this is when you'll go over the top if you haven't already with tech plays. Your resources will generate like crazy and this is the time to plant more production to keep up with it. If the opponent has been turtling and hasn't been able to capture any map, gg.

p.s. Either there's no squad preservation or units do jack shit damage, which is it You'd be surprised how much you can keep alive by splitting and falling back before your squad gets too low on health.

Is reinforcing squads near your base more rewarding than purchasing a new one?

Yes

Impregnable wrote:Is reinforcing squads near your base more rewarding than purchasing a new one?

In escalation level 1.

https://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar3/ ... ion-phases

Paranoid Kamikaze wrote:

Impregnable wrote:Is reinforcing squads near your base more rewarding than purchasing a new one?

In escalation level 1.

https://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar3/ ... ion-phases

No, all the time. It's always cheaper to reinforce models and the unit refund is gravy on top of that.

Atlas wrote:

Paranoid Kamikaze wrote:

Impregnable wrote:Is reinforcing squads near your base more rewarding than purchasing a new one?

In escalation level 1.

https://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar3/ ... ion-phases

No, all the time. It's always cheaper to reinforce models and the unit refund is gravy on top of that.

Wait, what? Seriously? Are you sure?

I only tested it to see that the refund is 25% and I assumed that was because of escalation.

Yes, I'm sure. The cost of reinforcement does not change through the phases, and reinforcement is always cheaper than replacing the entire squad.

A "unit" in the game refers to an individual model. Thus, you will get 25/.75 and 20/0 for an ASM/Tac model at the maximum Phase 1 25% refund on death. You reinforce for 25% cheaper than a normal model is. So ultimately you can sustain your army for half the price of buying a new one in Phase 1.

This makes preservation extremely important early game and gradually less important later in the game, when your income advantage comes more from holding points than reinforcing squads. Even at 0% refund though, you're still getting squads up to strength for 25% cheaper from the base reinforcement discount.

It's always cheaper to reinforce models and the unit refund is gravy on top of that.

Paranoid Kamikaze wrote:

Atlas wrote:

Paranoid Kamikaze wrote:
In escalation level 1.

https://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar3/ ... ion-phases

No, all the time. It's always cheaper to reinforce models and the unit refund is gravy on top of that.

Wait, what? Seriously? Are you sure?

I only tested it to see that the refund is 25% and I assumed that was because of escalation.

You misinterpreted it. It's a very weird mechanic that gives you money back on lost units in phase 1. 25%

Contentious!

Reinforcing is always cheaper no matter the escalation phase though.