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Officer battles

Posted: Sat 27 May, 2017 10:37 pm
by SolidAsARock
Can anyone tell me who would win: A full health guardsmen sergeant vs a full health warlock exarch (not the hero but like the one for an avenger squad) in melee than after that replace the sergeant for a regular commissar (not the hero)

Re: Officer battles

Posted: Sat 27 May, 2017 11:11 pm
by Oddnerd
The Exarch would win, since he has 275hp (vs commissar's 140 hp). He also does slightly more melee damage.

AFAIK neither has a melee special either, so it would be a matter of who has more hp.

Re: Officer battles

Posted: Sun 28 May, 2017 1:23 am
by Atlas
I think the da exarch might still have a melee special? I can't recall off the top of my head.

Pretty sure the commissar would win pretty easily though. He's basically a Tac Sarge in infantry armor.

Re: Officer battles

Posted: Sun 28 May, 2017 1:36 am
by Toilailee
Guardsmen sergeant does 4dps in melee so he wouldn't beat even a regular scout in melee. Commissar at least does enough enough melee damage for it to be worth mentioning.

Re: Officer battles

Posted: Sun 28 May, 2017 2:18 am
by Oddnerd
As Toil mentioned, GM sarg does a negligible 4dps - with his 140 hp he would lose without a chance.

The commissar at least does ~26 dps, but he still only has 140 hp (it would be imba to make his HP higher since he also adds 2 GM models to the squad). However, the exarch has almost 2x his HP, so the commissar still loses.

Also, I think the exarch's only special melee attack is his leap. Other than that I've never seen him do a special attack.

Re: Officer battles

Posted: Sun 28 May, 2017 5:19 pm
by Crewfinity
Commissar GM would definitely win since he's a die-last leader, and would therefore be contributing his dps for the entire fight.

Re: Officer battles

Posted: Sun 28 May, 2017 8:42 pm
by Dark Riku
Crewfinity wrote:Commissar GM would definitely win since he's a die-last leader, and would therefore be contributing his dps for the entire fight.
Cpt. Obvious: It's a 1 model vs 1 model fight. "Leaders only"

Re: Officer battles

Posted: Mon 29 May, 2017 5:11 pm
by SolidAsARock
How bout a SM sergeant vs a banshee exarch?

Re: Officer battles

Posted: Mon 29 May, 2017 6:25 pm
by Psycho
You know you can just check the codex, right?

Re: Officer battles

Posted: Mon 29 May, 2017 8:56 pm
by Rostam
codex hasnt been updated from 2.6 unfortunately

Re: Officer battles

Posted: Mon 29 May, 2017 9:15 pm
by Psycho
It's simple enough to check on the codex and ctrl-f the unit in question in the patch notes to see if anything changed. Not that it matters when we're talking about the idea of a GM sergeant beating anything that isn't his own shadow.

Re: Officer battles

Posted: Sun 24 Sep, 2017 6:01 am
by Rostam
I think exarch wins