Dawn of War Codex

OK - so for some reason, an SM player going for many Tacs just seem to destroy me.

I dunno if it's a play style that I've recently noticed and I just have no skill to handle it or what?

As usual I'm OM and I'm stuck for ideas. Struggling to get to T2 due to being pushed back and bashed all the time, so can't get plasma IST, Psy Bolt SS only do so much as I seem to be getting overrun so I'm struggling big time here.

I don't believe SM really had any changes at all in 2.8 / 2.8.1 so not sure why this is suddenly happening.

It's just a meta change brought from the 3v3 tournament. We haven't buffed or nerfed tacs in 2.8 so it was there before and no one really used it.

Need to scratch my head on this one some more then!

The Koreans have opened our minds.

Only Apo can maintain a Tac blob and Tac blobs get countered by Smite. Use Smite.

OM is not a very compatible race tbh and judging other races by OM standards is not a very good idea, but;
if you wanna counter tac blobs u can get AOE or get powerful melee and supression squads as well;

in case of countering sm blobs by OM, a good build would be: 2x IST (for dps downing things like fc), 1x SS melee (countering SM) ,1x purg (for supression and T2 light av option)
in case of t2 as i said aoe/melee suads is good so u can either PlamaDread or u can get superior melee with purifiers and libby (Also purifiers and libby has aoe abilities) if you see dread or razor melta dread is a good option vs sm melee dread and Purg are almost always useful since they are anti-infintry with soft av

You should be fine against tac blobs.
Get the power sword on the BC and give him the halo.
Run into melee with your strike squads.
You should destroy tac builds like that

speaking of brother captain sword it is good in case there are both asm and devs (double edged sword) since the speed boost help catching up to devs and it is a power sword which makes it good vs asm and also shield makes it tanky
but also there is a very good option of getting halberd in t2 tac blobs dont like that splash at all if u can get ur bc there among them

Cheers chaps!

Very good thoughts. This is the kinda thinking I still lack. I sit there trying to work it out and I still get lost haha.

Dread with plasma cannon is a good t2 purchase

it depends though, if there are tac blobs yes it is, vs razor or sm dread melta dread would be better , also there is the option of GK melee dread which gives the melee GK dread about the same amound of hp as ven dread can go toe to toe vs fc/asm and sm dread

Crewfinity wrote:Dread with plasma cannon is a good t2 purchase

It seems that the OP is more concerned about T1 and how one survives to earn that 245 energy against SM tactical spam. Strike squad doesn't scale well against heavy infantry even with upgrades and IST need lots of upgrades to be effective against tacs and only then at T2. But, yes, I agree that it's a faction design issue with the OM.

Never found GK T1 to be super hard vs SM at least in team games. T2 is the problem with plasma ripping you apart. This is for me at least.

Atlas wrote:It's just a meta change brought from the 3v3 tournament. We haven't buffed or nerfed tacs in 2.8 so it was there before and no one really used it.

I think its natural counters like suppression teams have been soft nerfed through the suppression in cover modifier, making it more viable.

Things like the DA buffs have made ASMs worse at chasing DAs too, which makes me think that it might be better trying to outshoot them instead.

Which yeah, suppression changes, da buffs and the like were not really a 2.8 thing.

i mean, sm have been getting almost straight buffs for a while now. they definitely needed something more from retail, but perhaps it has gone too far?

Tacs have gotten cheaper and stronger, and so have their upgrades. Scouts have gotten a pretty big buff in the form of their infiltration that also makes them regen health like crazy. Asm and their upgrades are cheaper. Devs have melee resist with a cheaper vengence upgrade that also has been buffed. And that's just in t1, without counting heroes or globals.

Atlas wrote:Which yeah, suppression changes, da buffs and the like were not really a 2.8 thing.

Yep, I just think it takes a while for people to realise its potential.