Dawn of War Codex

So, in Indrid's recent cast I heard that the Plague Champion is getting some unique melee Plague Marines as a call-in global. I thought that maybe he could instead get Deathshroud Terminators. What I'm thinking the unit will be like is:

HP:Higer HP that the TH/SS loyalist terminators (about 200 more per model?).
Weapons:Power Scythes: Power Melee DPS with splash, like the Nemesis Halberd.
Abilities:Teleport, Sweep Attack (one model performs a sweep with his scythe, damaging and knocking back surrounding enemies).
Cost:350 red with 700/150 further cost.

What do you guys think?

So You want to add a Terminator variant that

1. will probably win 1v1 against lc terminators due to their ~6000 hp

2. serve exactly the Same Function as lc terminators

3. Even cost less power than lc termis?

Sry but no.

Phoenix wrote:


3. Even cost less power than lc termis?

Less power and req, Assault termies are 650/100 + 70/70

Also yeah, this is pointless.

fok12 wrote:So, in Indrid's recent cast I heard that the Plague Champion is getting some unique melee Plague Marines as a call-in global. I thought that maybe he could instead get Deathshroud Terminators. What I'm thinking the unit will be like is:

HP:Higer HP that the TH/SS loyalist terminators (about 200 more per model?).
Weapons:Power Scythes: Power Melee DPS with splash, like the Nemesis Halberd.
Abilities:Teleport, Sweep Attack (one model performs a sweep with his scythe, damaging and knocking back surrounding enemies).
Cost:350 red with 700/150 further cost.

What do you guys think?

Well, you certainly are a Chaos fanboy. I can't blame you for being a fanboy, but this is little cheap for what it is.

200hp increase is a lot, especially combined with the stacking Nurgle worship of 2.3 on Super heavy Infantry. I think they are far too tanky. The scythes are nice, but as Phoenix pointed out, aren't they just going to do the same as lightning claws? Also, I know Caeltos is not known for adding things for lore, but they don't really act like Deathshroud terminators at all.

Whilst two termie variants like the FC gets is nice, it seems that the only purpose these Death shroud would have is to break the game. The chosen plague marines are there to add an alternative to Plague marines in T2 whilst replacing a defunct global. I like the idea, but it really needs to be balanced before declaring it better than chosen Plague Marines idea.

Maybe post these ideas as a brainstorming thread.

Ace of Swords wrote:

Phoenix wrote:


3. Even cost less power than lc termis?

Less power and req, Assault termies are 650/100 + 70/70

Also yeah, this is pointless.

Well Chaos Lc Terminators are only 620 req so I left that out

In my opinion Chaos already has more terminator variants than it should (exactly by three). So a firm no to another.

Phoenix wrote:Well Chaos Lc Terminators are only 620 req so I left that out

Because "fuck you, FC!", lol.

Please. Can we put these suggestiong under "Random Shit". It's not General Discussion as it's just fantasising about what you'd love to see, therefore it's exactly that, Random Shit

And yeah, no offence but terrible idea. Please put some thought into these if you want them to get consideration.

Well, there were one or two "what would you like to see in ELITE" threads a while ago, I think it would be enough if people would just collect their ideas in one thread, instead of opening so many.

To be honest, that was just a random suggestion for an idea I had and I haven't given it much thought about how it would actually pan out in the game. After all, I just suggested this so it could maybe be discussed. If it brakes the game or is completely pointless, then it's fine not to add it, I didn't say it HAS to be added in the game .

Must any unit necessarily be added to the game at this point?

Chaos already have LC Chaos Terminators. Chaos don't need ANOTHER power_melee squad.

Deathshroud could be created as massive debuffer - low/medium dps squad, with some debuff on hit or emit a debuff/damage aura. In combination with Demoralize, they turn into a great debuffer squad to allow other high dps squads/vehicles do even more damage.

That is definitely a better idea. It is also more fluffy, which is a bonus (but not always a neccesity).

They could be implemented as an upgrade for Chaos Terminators, giving them the Scythes as an alternative option to the Lightning Claws and the Ripper Autocannon. The boardgame models look pretty good indeed:

Even if caeltos considered them, I don't think we will see them.