Game Start Speed Lag

[Phat_Cat]

Hello, so it seems that since Relic did their update a few months ago, every game I join starts to put me in late. More specifically, I will finish loading the game but then I will stay in the loading screen for about two more minutes after everyone else is loaded, then I will be put in the game about two or three minutes after everyone else which is pretty crippling for early game pushes and conflicts. In order for me to catch up the game goes at 10x speed for the next few seconds so I get to watch everything that took place in my absence. This early game afk time almost makes the game unplayable as fast pushers will already be taking the resources on my side by the time I start building my first units. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

[BaptismByLoli]

How's your internet?

Can your com run DoW2? Have you tried putting everything to the lowest?

[Phat_Cat]

I have never had any issues starting and playing the game until the Relic update. I was able to run the game on high though I did shut off some of the harsher graphic options once this started happening to no avail. As far as I can tell, the problem isn't with my internet or graphics settings unless I'm missing something.

[Myrdal]

I run into this issue as well but it doesn't usually happen until I've played 1 or 2 games. I just restart dow2 once in a while to avoid it. Perhaps it's worse for you though, since you didn't mention it working ok the first game or two. I don't think there's a reason to start diagnosing your connection/computer though, this is a result of half-assed patches by relic.

[Phat_Cat]

Yeah this always happens in at most the first one or two games I play, since I will usually stop playing since its so frustrating. Ugh...guess my fears are true, its something I can't really fix. Thanks for the help either way. I really hope they realize this and someone fixes it.

[Ven]

Yeah this always happens in at most the first one or two games I play, since I will usually stop playing since its so frustrating. Ugh...guess my fears are true, its something I can't really fix. Thanks for the help either way. I really hope they realize this and someone fixes it.

thing is that it only happens to certain people, i havent gotten it, most of my friends havent gotten it. i only know one person who has. it seems to happen on people who have a certain hardware configuration. my AMD system has no problems, my friends AMD system has no problems, one of my other friends Nvidia system has no problems yet the one person i do know that gets this has an Nvidia system. it seems to either be either hardware configurations or on lower end PCs, i know that people have been having this issue more if their PC can only run the game on low for example.

we havent heard so much of a whisper from relic since the update.

[Tsototar]

Hello, so it seems that since Relic did their update a few months ago, every game I join starts to put me in late. More specifically, I will finish loading the game but then I will stay in the loading screen for about two more minutes after everyone else is loaded, then I will be put in the game about two or three minutes after everyone else which is pretty crippling for early game pushes and conflicts. In order for me to catch up the game goes at 10x speed for the next few seconds so I get to watch everything that took place in my absence. This early game afk time almost makes the game unplayable as fast pushers will already be taking the resources on my side by the time I start building my first units. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

You're not the only one, though it seems more severe for you. My friend Jekkujere has it happen to him EVERY game - after everyone has loaded and we're all moving our guys, it takes an additional 20 seconds or so before his guys start (it's a measure of his skill that that doesn't automatically doom him). It's strange because on the loading bars on the load screen, he is NOT the last guy to get a full bar.

I agree 2-3 minutes is a ridiculous/unplayable delay.

I don't know if it's really a graphics card issue, but he does use an Nvidia card. I have an AMD card and don't have this problem (my problem is on the "lack of skill" side).

[Torpid]

It's not even a performance issue it is connectivity based because I've been having it too ever since the last update and I still get it on min graphics settings whereas before I never had it and always played ultra. It's connection lag in a non peer to peer system and it sucks.

[Tsototar]

curious - what graphics card do you use?

It's not even a performance issue it is connectivity based because I've been having it too ever since the last update and I still get it on min graphics settings whereas before I never had it and always played ultra. It's connection lag in a non peer to peer system and it sucks.

[Torpid]

Nvidia GeForce GT 745M

[Ven]

in other words, intergrated graphics, okay then.

i dont know, it seems most of the people i talk to that have this issue have low-ish end PCs, noone i know that has a high/semi-high end PC has this issue, whatsoever. i mean i occasionally get like 2 seconds of starting lag at best.

perhaps this is an issue to do with intergrated graphics, but if you ask me. its something to do with the way the netcode was made for the new servers perhaps certain CPUs process the information too slowly or something, i mean afterall some games like total war shogun 2 straight up refuse to even launch with certain AMD CPUs

[Tsototar]

Nvidia GeForce GT 745M

further curiosity: what graphics settings do you use with this card for this game?

I have an AMD/ATI Radeon 5870 and this is what I run at without any/serious startlag:

EDIT: argh, can't seem to upload, what's "board attachment quota reached"?

[Torpid]

I used to run the game on the custom ultra settings with no problem. I have been trying the game on minimum settings recently and it hasn't helped whatsoever.

[531st]

Yea, happens sometimes

Since it is a relic problem, not elite i can only suggest that you order to cap points ASAP and only then build units. Cuz its better when u have resources and less upkeep than u when u have units but no resources and more upkeep.

[Ven]

Yea, happens sometimes

Since it is a relic problem, not elite i can only suggest that you order to cap points ASAP and only then build units. Cuz its better when u have resources and less upkeep than u when u have units but no resources and more upkeep.

upkeep doesn't come in to effect after 30/100 pop. no starter units will put you over 30 pop. so the whole upkeep thing is irrelivent here. also some people experience start lag where their screen is black at the start so even unable to see anything. i guess it depends what kind of starting lag torpid and all that get, because there seems to be a few different types of "starting lag"

im pretty sure everyone has experience the one you described. hell sometimes it follows with everyones game crashing. happened on stream yesterday, that was fun. gg reric.

[Myrdal]

Haven't had this problem in a while now and I used to get it frequently. My setup remains the same apart from some changed tcp parameters. Perhaps it was a problem they now fixed server-side, likely the net protocol are identical to coh2 which means optimisations there will affect us as well.

[DarnedDragoon]

I have a AMD A10-5700 APU, Radeon HD 3.4 GHz and 12 GBs of Ram. I'm also having this problem. Before this latest update I use to play on my laptop with no starting lag issues it also used an AMD.

[Atlas]

Geforce 970 here and I'm 99% sure it's not a hardware/software issue but a connection one. I've been having terrible internet lately and have had this problem a lot.

[DarnedDragoon]

So I have had an improvement in performance in last two days since I enabled "Automatically manage paging file size for all drivers" in my virtual memory settings. Now if I lag at the start of the game it hasn't been as long.