Dawn of War Codex

EDIT: Placing this in its own topic. - Atlas

the above having been stated, I think it would b fricken awesome especially as a main ig player to have the commissar lord have a hellpistol modeled, even if the damage didnt change. Especially since he is has decent ranged damage for a melee hero and its more fluffy and would look cooler and would differentiate from the IG seargants laspistol model. It would be awesome if the hellpistol had a belt powerpack, though for modelling purposes the backpack powersource and cabling would probably be easier as its already in game.

Cant seem to find a good picture with the limited time that I have, my google foo is week.
Here is one for a plasma pistol, notice the small backpack powersource



Not sure if image came up correct, first time using this. Either way I think the point came across.
If you click on image and open in new window, the literal google search pops up, its the first picture result that is the one im talking about.

doofyoofy wrote: the commissar lord have a hellpistol modeled, even if the damage didnt change. ... It would be awesome if the hellpistol had a belt powerpack, though for modelling purposes the backpack powersource and cabling would probably be easier as its already in game.

Now this is what I call an idea. I support this thing.

I like it too but it must do more DMG then :>

I will elaborate further on my thoughts now that it has been moved to its own thread.

Firstly the current laspistol does not inspire me to die for the emporer, it motivates me to go o well we lost anyways and roll over. It is so dinky and not awe inspiring as a lord commissar should be.

Also IRRC according to the fluff I am familiar commissars (aside from ciaphas Cain whom from now on I will pretend does not exist) do not use normal laspistols for the above reason, they are not awesome enuff. Bolt pistols for blamming and craziness and/or hell pistols if the commissar in question doesn't feel like cleaning the cowardly filths blood and brains off his uniform but desires something more surgical to execute cowardly guardsmen.

For actual in game I will restate I think the damage shouldn't change, but that if the model is added with a backpack hell pistol or even just normal hellpistol( though backpack or belt mounted power pack is cooler looking and also fluffy) then I would also hope that it shoots the hell gun beam, both to better indicate what and wear my commissar is shooting which isn't always obvious with his little laspistol and to inspire fear into the enemies of mankind as is only right and proper for a lord commissar.( my opponents)

doofyoofy wrote:For actual in game I will restate I think the damage shouldn't change, but that if the model is added with a backpack hell pistol or even just normal hellpistol( though backpack or belt mounted power pack is cooler looking and also fluffy) then I would also hope that it shoots the hell gun beam, both to better indicate what and wear my commissar is shooting which isn't always obvious with his little laspistol and to inspire fear into the enemies of mankind as is only right and proper for a lord commissar.( my opponents)

If nothing else, I think adding the hellpistol model in with the flak jacket upgrade would be appropriate (and perhaps an animation where it glows red hot or something before using the Inspire Terror skill) since it has the capability of dealing 300 damage in one hit.

Additionally, if I may also put forth a suggestion:

Similar to doofyoofy's suggestion to replace the model of the pistol without changing any gameplay mechanics, I want to suggest that we replace the power sword upgrade's model with a chain sword model. This not only helps distinguish the upgrade, but I think it brings it in line with the fluff of some of his other upgrades - as well as visually justifies the increased damage (in my mind) [EDIT: I had previously thought chainswords were regarded as power melee and was corrected - it may or may not be confusing with the damage types]. I think Commissar Yarrick had both the carapace armor and the xenos power claw and a bionic eye. I also believe it was Commissar Ciaphas Cain that had the chainsword/boltpistol combo as well.

Again, I would like to reiterate that similar to the OP's suggestion, this suggestion is purely aesthetic in nature.

Takadekadaka wrote:also helps distinguish the damage type change as chainswords are universally recognized as power melee.

Wat? In DoW2 chainswords are never power melee, so that would be confusing as hell... And they are not power weapons in table-top or fluff either – the exceptions I can find are chainfists (where the chainblade is glued to a power fist) and eviscerators (which have force field generators).

Cain used a las pistol

Lulgrim wrote:

Takadekadaka wrote:also helps distinguish the damage type change as chainswords are universally recognized as power melee.

Wat? In DoW2 chainswords are never power melee, so that would be confusing as hell... And they are not power weapons in table-top or fluff either – the exceptions I can find are chainfists (where the chainblade is glued to a power fist) and eviscerators (which have force field generators).

Completely mistaken - for whatever reason I had thought they were. Editted post to reflect your correction.

Broodwich wrote:Cain used a las pistol

Whoops. Almost all his pictures have bolt pistols on them...but I just looked it up and apparently he doesn't use them in the story. Talk about Imperial Propoganda...

Shows how little I know my stuff X_X

Lulgrim wrote:In DoW2 chainswords are never power melee, so that would be confusing as hel

That awkward moment when thunder/daemon hammers can be normal, power, or heavy melee...

Actually it would make more sense for the LC to start with a chainsword and then upgrade to a power sword but w/e it's not a huge concern

If a new pistol would fix the infuriating execute feature™ I'm all for it!