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2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Posted: Tue 25 Apr, 2017 3:47 am
by Torpid
Keeping this one simple.

What to do with it?

It so is underwhelming donig less dps than the TM's melta when it is in T3. Barely any extra range.

Do we buff the range? Buff the damage? Change the price? Make it T2? Add a mechanic so you can swap between the executioner spear and the fusion gun like tacs (or for free like a hero if you bought it)?

Or do nothing?

Quick suggestions please!

It does 33dps atm for 80/20. Tm melta does 41dps for 100/25.

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Posted: Tue 25 Apr, 2017 3:48 am
by Atlas
I'm fine with just trying it out at T2 and seeing if that does it. Don't forget that it's 100% fotm and the Autarch is all kinds of fast.

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Posted: Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:05 am
by Oddnerd
I think making it available T2 is worth a shot. By T3 it feels like too little too late.

I also think that buffing its stats is dangerous, since it could be problematic to have too strong of an AV weapon on the most mobile subcommander in the game.

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Posted: Tue 25 Apr, 2017 6:29 am
by Shroom
I don't think this change is needed. As Atlas said she is fast, with a base of 7.5 Then she can jump, giving her extra chase potential from the jump alone, not mentioning the additional +1 speed and +20% damage she gets after jumping. Eldar have so much AV and soft AV in tier 2, I don't think they need any more.

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Posted: Tue 25 Apr, 2017 8:55 am
by Adeptus Noobus
To be totally honest: Just remove the weapon. Her mobility would turn her into a T2 lightning-fast Fire Dragon which can also jump. It creates so many internal balance issues with the changes that Caeltos made to the Eldar faction it would be better to just remove it. The Autarch is completely fine with her melee weapon upgrade alone. No need to turn her into a Elite Firedragon. Just imagine a T2 Fusion Gun Autarch with either Crackshot, Guide or Enhance. You already can't build transports vs Eldar no more since they get disintegrated. Let's not add to that.

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Posted: Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:42 pm
by Torpid
I can't say that makes any one decision stand out as the best option xD

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Posted: Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:59 pm
by Indrid
T2 and 125/30.

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Posted: Tue 25 Apr, 2017 11:33 pm
by Phoenix
Remove fusion gun and give her a 50/10 melta pistol side arm upgrade akin to the Raptor AC. :twisted:

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Posted: Tue 25 Apr, 2017 11:48 pm
by Forestradio
Phoenix wrote:Remove fusion gun and give her a 50/10 melta pistol side arm upgrade akin to the Raptor AC. :twisted:

ye cuz a sidearm totally works with the executioner

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Posted: Wed 26 Apr, 2017 12:03 am
by Atlas
So the answers are all over the place. My favorite kind of feedback! Kappa
Alright, this sounds tougher than I thought it would be.

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Posted: Wed 26 Apr, 2017 12:59 am
by Ace of Swords
Eldar has already got a retarded amount of cheap cross AV that can double as anti infantry, even the brightlance has a mode to be helpful against inf and particularly single entities, they don't need more of this, so if anything gets changed would be making the fusion gun buyable in t2 and nothing else.

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Posted: Wed 26 Apr, 2017 3:55 am
by Torpid
Indrid wrote:T2 and 125/30.


I like this proposal the best tbh.