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				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Sat 18 Jan, 2014 5:37 pm
				by Tex
				A couple more games in chronological order
 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Sat 18 Jan, 2014 9:55 pm
				by Toilailee
				Uploaded both games tex so you don't need upload the one you won.
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Sun 19 Jan, 2014 3:52 am
				by crazyman64335
				Game vs Tex
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2014 5:19 am
				by [TLV]Soul_Drinkers
				4 game series vs crew
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2014 12:02 pm
				by Toilailee
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				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2014 5:07 pm
				by Stoned_elf
				1 vs zoukka
2 vs kisuke
1 vs delta
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2014 8:05 pm
				by Crewfinity
				5 game series vs shas'el
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Fri 24 Jan, 2014 8:09 pm
				by Ser Topi
				Some ranked games
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Fri 24 Jan, 2014 10:08 pm
				by Rumpelstilzchen
				Me(Rumpelstilzchen) and ben1993 played a game, he won. Was my first ranked.
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Sun 26 Jan, 2014 9:11 pm
				by Tex
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Mon 27 Jan, 2014 5:08 am
				by deltakyklos
				Stoned_elf wrote:1 vs zoukka
2 vs kisuke
1 vs delta
That game was not ranked, and aside from that there was a disconnect. What are the rules for that?
 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Mon 27 Jan, 2014 6:28 pm
				by Stoned_elf
				i was pretty sure we said it was before game and that the disc was pretty much when it was all over but happy for it to be ignored no biggie 

 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Mon 27 Jan, 2014 6:46 pm
				by Torpid
				A disconnect should serve as an automatic loss else it is too easy to exploit - which is why it always served as such on retail ranked. However before or after game agreements can't be legitimate evidence of a ranked game because it isn't verifiable nor falsifiable. That's what I think anyway.
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Mon 27 Jan, 2014 6:57 pm
				by Ace of Swords
				A disconnect should serve as an automatic loss else it is too easy to exploit - which is why it always served as such on retail ranked. 
I'd say a DC is to be judged by the opponent(the guy who is still online) if there is no refeer, that's far from fixing the whole problem, but atleast the honest people wouldn't have trouble over them.
 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Mon 27 Jan, 2014 7:58 pm
				by Torpid
				That could encourage somebody to grant somebody a win that otherwise they may not have deserved based on feeling of compassion etc, especially at lower skill levels when people may not have as strong game awareness and not realise that they had the slight upper hand. 
It's just too subjective.
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Mon 27 Jan, 2014 8:15 pm
				by Ace of Swords
				That Torpid Gamer wrote:That could encourage somebody to grant somebody a win that otherwise they may not have deserved based on feeling of compassion etc, especially at lower skill levels when people may not have as strong game awareness and not realise that they had the slight upper hand. 
It's just too subjective.
One could just concede right now at it would be the same thing, this problem solves itself when people who don't deserve to climb get suddently rekt 500-0, see retail, atleast here they can't abuse the system to reach the first places.
 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Mon 27 Jan, 2014 9:31 pm
				by Dark Riku
				That Torpid Gamer wrote:A disconnect should serve as an automatic loss else it is too easy to exploit
No, it really should not. The 2 players can agree on a solution here. Replay, discard it or declare a winner. I've had some opponents disconnect or myself disconnecting. we've always replayed so far since it was fairly early T2 every time. If the 2 players can't come to an agreement the replay can be send in with the mention of who dropped so that a referee can make a decision: declare a winner or discard it.
This is still a ranking to find opponents of your own skill. No reason to abuse anything.
I don't think we have such assholes here? We aren't n8crawler you know :p
 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Mon 27 Jan, 2014 11:31 pm
				by Torpid
				Well I suppose that's fine with the tiny little community that we have but if it were to get much bigger I'm not so sure. 
Hey, I'm pretty misanthropistic if you can't gather, so that'll explain why I really feel uneasy with not having DCs be an automatic loss.
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Tue 28 Jan, 2014 12:42 am
				by Nuclear Arbitor
				perhaps some kind of trust rating would work. a DCed game counts as ranked but doesn't affect one's rating unless they have more than X in a specific amount of time. DCs would disappear after a certain amount of time, like a month. any more than X DCs in a ranked game would count as a loss. 
the issues i see being that it's one more thing and i don't know how easy it is to see when someone dropped. if you have a 45 minute game and someone drops at the end and you have to spend 10 minutes at x4 in order to see that the person dropped and verify it that's not really an acceptable use of someone's time.
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Tue 28 Jan, 2014 1:22 am
				by Toilailee
				Nuclear Arbitor wrote:the issues i see being that it's one more thing and i don't know how easy it is to see when someone dropped. if you have a 45 minute game and someone drops at the end and you have to spend 10 minutes at x4 in order to see that the person dropped and verify it that's not really an acceptable use of someone's time.
Well I can remember exactly 1 1v1 over 40mins long. Normal "long" games are around 25-30mins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCJ3azmJjag here's dat game in case any1 was curious.
 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Tue 28 Jan, 2014 7:37 am
				by Nuclear Arbitor
				weakling! fight to the dea-- naw, fuck that. back to the webway.
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Thu 30 Jan, 2014 4:49 am
				by [TLV]Soul_Drinkers
				are we waiting for after the tournament for the update? cause its almost been like 2 weeks
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Thu 30 Jan, 2014 3:50 pm
				by Dark Riku
				Some ranked games. The one vs OJJ (temp file) was just before the one vs Ben.
Couldn't get the screens for the game vs OJJ. He pressed a bit to fast ^^
Screens for the game vs Ben can be found on my steam. Ben was T2, I was T3.
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Thu 30 Jan, 2014 10:36 pm
				by Lulgrim
				Updated ratings with most of the games posted until page 13, there's a few still in process and detailed stats to fill up.
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Fri 31 Jan, 2014 5:03 am
				by [TLV]Soul_Drinkers
				Concerning this the last game that got put up for me is big bad wolff which was before the last 4 games vs crew which ended up with a lower mean average for me =(
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Fri 31 Jan, 2014 2:45 pm
				by Kvek
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Fri 31 Jan, 2014 6:48 pm
				by ben1993
				zouka
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Fri 31 Jan, 2014 9:31 pm
				by ben1993
				Last 2.2 beta 10 games
2 games, ben1993 vs kvek
			 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Sat 01 Feb, 2014 11:52 am
				by Lulgrim
				[TLV]Soul_Drinkers wrote:Concerning this the last game that got put up for me is big bad wolff which was before the last 4 games vs crew which ended up with a lower mean average for me =(
I go by the .rec file time-stamps:
#446 (Soul_Drinkers vs. Crewfinity) saved Jan 16 @ 23.28
#453 (Soul_Drinkers vs. BigBadWoolf) saved Jan 17 @ 20.07
So according to this the BBW game was a day later...
 
			
					
				Re: Replays of ranked games
				Posted: Sat 01 Feb, 2014 8:26 pm
				by [TLV]Soul_Drinkers
				the time stamp is wrong for my games since my clock on pc is always 2 or 3 days behing. i posted the last 4 games of crew right after we finished playing em. sryy