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				Re: Ogryns. Are they filling adequately their role?
				Posted: Sun 19 Jan, 2014 6:02 pm
				by Sub_Zero
				1) Genestealers under melee synapse
2) Temagaunts' crippling poison + warriors' supression + zoanthrope
I have seen a game with Holywhiner vs some russian guy and Holywhiner spammed zoanthropes up to 4 if I remember correctly. He was decimating 2x ogryns of that guy easily.
			 
			
					
				Re: Ogryns. Are they filling adequately their role?
				Posted: Sun 19 Jan, 2014 6:11 pm
				by SirSid
				personaly  i don't think " getting 4  zoenthrops " should be used in a  descution about balance  but  sure  y not. 
I will admit getting 4  zoanthrops vs  IG  is  "mabey" a good idea
			 
			
					
				Re: Ogryns. Are they filling adequately their role?
				Posted: Sun 19 Jan, 2014 6:31 pm
				by Commissar Vocaloid
				I'm iffy with Ogyrn. Perhaps with Commissar buffs, it is viable to use them but other commanders don't fit my usual play style to support them. Since I play Inquis a lot, I find that it's not often that I can pull off a Silently with ogryn, as most factions can easily counter this with stealth detection units (i.e tics w/ AC, Shootas with Nob, scouts w/ sarg, etc). It's viable if you're up against someone who plays Eldar and goes something like triple Dires, but it's not as easy to pull off versus other factions with standard builds I find.
			 
			
					
				Re: Ogryns. Are they filling adequately their role?
				Posted: Sun 19 Jan, 2014 6:36 pm
				by Sub_Zero
				Infiltration in this game is like supression teams. You get countered hard or you own with it.
personaly i don't think " getting 4 zoenthrops " should be used in a descution about balance but sure y not. 
 That was an example how to abuse zoans vs ogryns. I said before that combination of 3 units can deal with ogryns or genestealers under melee synapse.
 
			
					
				Re: Ogryns. Are they filling adequately their role?
				Posted: Sun 19 Jan, 2014 6:59 pm
				by FiSH
				Sub_Zero wrote:I have seen a game with Holywhiner vs some russian guy and Holywhiner spammed zoanthropes up to 4 if I remember correctly. He was decimating 2x ogryns of that guy easily.
o c'mon, that game was played on 3.18 for crying out loud. and the point of that game was multiple zoans + HT (with invulnerability and crushing claws) + crippling poison completely rapes. not a good example.
 
			
					
				Re: Ogryns. Are they filling adequately their role?
				Posted: Sun 19 Jan, 2014 7:06 pm
				by Ace of Swords
				Not like getting ogryns is a good idea to begin with vs nids.
			 
			
					
				Re: Ogryns. Are they filling adequately their role?
				Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2014 6:13 am
				by ThongSong
				Ogryns consistently kick my ass hard but I never get mine to kick any ass.
tis sad